>>106882
More understandable a take. I personally just do not want or trust grot to be any form of arbiter of quality for what amount to horny autists posting fat chicks and I think any form of that beyond stopping obviously malicious projects (malware, viruses, ransomware) is more fucked than anything you could expect.
And yes I remember the Weirdobeardo nonsense. I would believe hoarding up so much of the project category would be enough of a ban for spam and site abuse beyond AI slop posting. In a different context, if this happened in the Ideas section with no project whatsoever, it would be a bannable offense on that measure.
>>106885
>>106888
I don't anyone was confused on your thoughts on genAI...
>AI in jams with cash prizes
I have issues with cash prize jams anyway, and I don't necessarily like how much these jams are really more about artists than game development. I remember stuff like Loop Garou, Sweet Dreams, Brewing Cat, and HoneyCombat getting high scores and placements just because they looked pretty or had unique artstyles over actually good gameplay. Some of these weren't really a complete game and never will be... This is why, beyond my bias in favor of genAI art, I don't really mind them being in the same competition. These aren't tests of artistic skills like a traditional art contests, but rapid development and programming. In an ideal world where genAI isn't just mass theft and economic disaster, I wouldn't see how this would be any more egregious than using a plugin or script or just taking something from the asset store so the game can exist because that's the actual point behind all of it.
But that's something I have to agree to disagree on, I think my view of Game Jams is different from everyone else. If the cash prize makes the contest more sacred and prone to fighting, you either have to get rid of the prize or make things more fair for everyone.
>Separating the project categories
On paper, I get this. The tagging system isn't quite robust enough, this isn't ArchiveOfOurOwn. Probably why a big reason he wants to phase out the forums for a shop system. I think the big issue comes here comes down to is how much genAI is too much? Again, these are games, not art pieces. Does a game that uses genAI for a few placeholders must be toss in that section? What if they are removed, can they get out? What about music or code, does that get you put in Gay Baby Not-A-Real-Artist-Jail? And if it's about copyright and ripped assets, are fangames and the like kosher, or do they need their own section too?
These are pretty oblique and roundabout questions and arguably ones you and I don't need to care for. We aren't webmasters. But they are ones someone as stupidly corporate minded as grot would be asking, even if realistically no one would complain, not even the genAI techbros.
>The Jupitarian/WAISTLINE nonsense
Yeah, THAT was why I remember your bad attitude in particular. Will say, you probably should have been banned for that BACK THEN, but it is unreasonable to hold it against you 2 years down the line and be the defining reason to ban you. Man's not a cop or law enforcement, I think it is absurd to sit on such for multiple years.
Though really, I think it was the enshittification thread that stirred up everything back up and gave grot the moxie to just nip this in the bud.
>>106887
Yeah, I remember, and I still find it fucked all that happened. Chuggs can draw so it is confusing he felt the need to use AI, but it is funny no one have an issue with all the ripped music and sprite style he admits is just traced over Phantasy Star I sprites.