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Anonymous 07/17/2023 (Mon) 18:25:11 Id:cd1741 No. 39400
Lady Bow/Mario Ghost characters
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Note: This is an experimental thread
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I absolutely LOVE cute, gluttonous boo girls!!
Whose ready for Vivian Gender Discourse Part 2?
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>>43517 Please don't start this. Just enjoy the quality shadow siren fats. :)
TTYD IS GETTING A REMASTER!! FOR REAL!!!
>>43521 And localized by the Nintendo Treehouse The same people who forced Girlboss Edelgard and removed marriage from FE Engage.
>>43522 Still can’t get over the marriage removal in that game even the story is generic and simple.
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Here's more Peeka and Lahla, in celebration of the PM:TTYD remake announcement!
>>43449 What happened to Sprito01?
>>43537 As far as I'm concerned both interpretations of Vivian's gender are correct, in the American version of the game, she's female. In the original Japanese version, she's trans. Personally, I consider Vivian as a female character, that's how I knew her while growing up playing the game, that's how I see her now, regardless of what the other versions of the game say.
>>43540 He's still around, when he first started out on DA, he did a lot of good fat sprite art of Mario characters, but he personally decided to hold off from making any more fat art until after he turns 18, since some people in the DA community were giving him some grief over him being underage. According to his DA profile I believe he turns 18 this year in December, so we'll see if he decides to start making fat art again or not once that time comes.
>>43543 Why was he doing it in the first place if he was underage? Did he think other people wouldn’t care?
>>43549 Matter of fact, why are most underage people drawing this kind of crap? Seriously. It’s not right.
>>43549 The problem is that other people "care". Nothing magically changes when you turn 18. You get lust when you get, not turning 18. You grew to be creative when you do, not when you turn 18. Dissolving someone's creativity is a piece of cyberpuritan crap.
>>43551 I think the issue is more a matter of legality than anything else
>>43573 Remember to always lie about your age, kids.
All this skill went to a waste.
I know Midnite is technically a furry, but I think she still fits the theme of this thread, and we can make an exception for her.
absolutely beloved
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Bump
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Can't have enough cute, blubbery Boo girls! <3
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Bump
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I’m hoping for a resurgence.
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>>56258 And an absence of the trans bullshit
>>56755 Yeah it'd be nice to not hear people bitch every other post about how much they hate trans people. I just want a bunch of fatass ghosts.
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>>56762 True. Bitching doesn’t solve anything. I find it funny how some people want own sexual preferences projected everywhere though. That’s all I’ll say on the matter. How much fat Vivian is it possible to get our hands on? And how the fuck do we avoid repeats?
>>56755 >>56762 >>56768 If you think about it, her being trans would be a good thing for this. Means more people get art of her being fat as fuck either with or without a cock, and people would probably draw alts. Let the people see what they wanna see; makes more people happy overall, and gets more art of her being fucking huge into the world. It's a win-win for everyone.
>>56772 Fat is the great androgynizer. There’s only one problem: as I said earlier, people want their sexual preferences on full display. >>56768 the 3rd pic, by Fawxen, explicitly states that Vivian is Trans (Female) in the gender bio. That might ruin people’s willingness to draw him (her)
Wasn’t the whole trans thing just a mistranslation of the original Japanese which was closer to something like a tomboy? I think I read that somewhere a while back, can’t remember where though.
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>>56821 I’d believe that sooner than whatever a leftist has to say. What other Mario ghosts can we fill this thread with?
>>56774 If you think an obese woman looks anything like an obese man you are a faggot in denial, as well as retarded. >>56821 First I'm hearing of that but its plausible, and if Vivian actually was a tranny then her category on pixiv would have been packed to brim with futa bullshit. At this point I'm convinced that any claim that a fictional character drinks troonshine or so forth is just cope from some genetic deadend living in Portland.
>>56821 You’re in luck, I know a guy who speaks Japanese. Asked him to look into it straight from Japanese media and websites, and apparently, the Japanese term used to describe Vivian in game is “otokonoko”, which doesn’t exactly have a direct translation, but could be compared to “cross-dresser” or “drag queen”. That sort of thing is apparently a common trope in Japanese comedy and doesn’t have any of the sexual/gender/political connotations it does in the west. So if we’re going by word of God Miyamoto, Vivian’s a trap.
>>56915 So Japanese Vivian dresses up like a girl as a joke but has the good sense not to cut his dick off or terrorize others using the wrong pronouns? Good, crossdressing’s a joke so it should be treated like one.
>>56915 >>56913 Alright assholes, to settle this I ended up doing the research myself. The idea in the Japanese versions of the game is that Vivian refers to herself as female and uses female likenesses (calls the Shadow Sirens the "san shimai" meaning "three sisters", including herself, also refers to herself with "atai", which is a feminine pronoun). Other characters like Beldam refer to her with "okama", "otoko" and the like, effectively calling her male. The important thing to note is that Vivian herself always refers to herself as a girl, however - in fact, it's not just her. In the Japanese version's ending, Goombella (who previously uses male pronouns taking after Beldam) cottons onto it, and refers to the group as sisters, including Vivian, as if respecting her choices as she comes to realise. In addition to all of this, her gender is never brought into question in the English versions, being unmistakably female with nothing to suggest otherwise, which was reportedly done intentionally to keep the game's age rating low overseas. While obviously this could mean that .they just removed this aspect of the character in other regions to avoid controversy, they notably don't make any passes to suggest that it also doesn't exist, what with Beldam still calling her ugly. However, despite this, the Italian translation mentions that Vivian "used to be a man, but now she's a woman and proud of it", further supporting the original Japanese text. Going off of a character in the Japanese version of the game actively changing their opinion on her, as well as Vivian herself being insistent on calling herself female despite everything, and an official translation of the game actively stating that she is transgender, it's clear that the actual intention was to portray her as trans and happy with her choices. Remember, people used the same "otokonoko" argument with Bridget from Guilty Gear, only for her creator to come out and confirm she was transgender. TLDR, she was written to be explicitly trans in the Japanese version and not just a trap, other characters were written to come to realise this and respect her choices, it was backed up other official translations. She's undeniably a trans woman, not male nor any kind of crossdresser. Enjoy your fat ghost women.
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>>57008 What the actual fuck is wrong with you if you can't even compress your thoughts into a single paragraph? Brevity is the soul of wit you faggot and no one is reading that crap.
Contractors understand now why trump never paid. Through these files this is ridiculous hire more minorities. 90% of one race isnt acceptable.
>>57011 I quite literally did. That's why the TDLR is there. The big paragraphs is just the research I've done so I can say I'm not bullshitting you on any of it. At least you're right in that you're not reading it. Dumbass.
>>57013 Still get more pussy then you & your father.
>>57014 You can't even fucking read, man. Illiterate ass motherfucker. Any pussy you're getting, if any, I don't wanna be anywhere near.
>>57017 Oh nice another letter for the shredder. Cant read cant know.
>>57018 Eh, doesn't matter. I've said my piece, contributed to the thread and made a fool of you. I'm happy, even if my words fall on deaf and dumb ears.
>>57019 1973 or 1977 court case
>>57020 442 Civil Rights - Employment Cause 42:2000 Job Discrimination
>>57020 >>57021 what is blud on about
>>57023 Honestly this whole conversation has quite possibly been some of the goofiest things I have ever read. Maybe I am not one to talk, as this whole message board environment is in all honesty new to me, but are people really this stubborn when it comes to accepting something a game just... straight up tells you?
>>57025 Loserrrrrrs delegates retire get a life!!!! Stop ruining families
>>57025 To be quite honest with you, yeah. The game makes it pretty damn clear on several occasions. Shame it's like that in real life, too. At least we can fantasise about silly fat ghost girls.
>>57033 At least you posted fat Vivian too. I’d post her myself, but I’m worried about repeats
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>>57034 Nah, it's alright - a bunch of people have posted her already anyway, it's fine. Go ahead!
>>57008 You know, people might be more willing to listen to you if you weren’t so hostile. Also, bringing up the Bridget thing is probably not a good look since that was a pretty clear case of activist types just harassing the company into confirming their retarded headcanons since they can’t comprehend the idea of a feminine man existing without being part of their cult. I don’t think any of this shit even matters anyways, we’re talking about a fictional ghost creature, maybe it’s possible for that species to actually change sex, maybe it is a case of cross dressing, I don’t give a shit Boo girls are hotter anyways, I’m here for them.
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>>57263 Why isn’t there more fat art of the shower piggy ghost?
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>>57265 Yeah, not a lot of art of her, but there is this though.
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How many more days until the remake?
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Otokonoko or bio fenake?
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>>57827 The game will be available to be purchased on May 23
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>>58000 Cool
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Have any of you seen this artist?
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A thread there became fat friendly real quick
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>>58221 I don’t have any sources. Just need to trust me
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All this talk about Vivian and possible trans identity, but what about the other two shadows?
>>57008 >>57008 I find it pretty hard to believe all that when I know that Japanese has like five or six various terms for very specific character tropes that the west all just labels as 'transgender'. Japanese is an incredibly contextual language. I really don't care, all I want is the game I played as a kid.
>>58266 Nintendo Treehouse killed that game my man, you're not getting it back
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How are the /v/ threads about Vivian getting filled with fatfags?
>>58279 Yeah. I know. The leaks of edited dialogue are not promising, not to mention Nintendo of America being a fucking short bus. Ah well. We can still emulate.
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I’m seeing this image tossed up as well. What is this?
>>58298 There's a lot of fat Vivian threads on 4chan's /v/. There was a trend of two posters going back and forth essentially quasi-ERPing, their posts getting increasingly unusual. One of these posters eventually got into how Vivian would eat so much, she would eat silverware, too. This was seen as ridiculous to the other posts in these thread. I drew that image as a joke in regards to that.
>>58348 I can’t believe I’m seeing an explanation straight from you. Thank you so much, Shweet, for coming here and giving one. I wish I could’ve been there or that desuarchive recorded /v/ threads. Hate to be pushy, but do you feel like drawing anything now? It’s ok if you don’t
>>58241 Marilyn is great and there could stand to be more art of her
It's official now, by the way. Have some celebratory best girl pics.
>>59631 >it's official More like it's horrible localization and translation
>>59631 why would i celebrate a shitty localization lol
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>>59631 Mario has gone woke.....
>>59633 >>59634 >was always the case in the original GCN Japanese version >went uncensored in half of the other translations, was censored in English >remake features the director of TTYD as well as PM64 and SPM, and has her transgender in both English, Japanese and seemingly most if not all other translations Literally irrefutable at this point lmao. This was the original intention by the game's director, and he ensured it would be carried over to the remake in both English and Japanese. Shut up, Beldam.
>>59631 >>59643 so what you're saying is, that this character should be posted in /bhm/ instead of here from now on? yeah, i agree.
>>59643 Haven't seen these Vivian pics before, but hot damn they're lovely. >>59646 Guh!
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Can someone get this 4 part squence
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>>59676 here you go, let me know how it is patreon exclusivity isn't something i'm fond of doing but i gotta get the green somehow
>>59690 Its very good
We need more lady bow, peeka and Lahla
>>59661 We need more transphobe william or whatever that thing's name is
>>59690 YEEEES!! More cute fat blobby boo girls!! <3
Canonical transphobe, let's go!! Nintendo representing everyone this time around. But seriously, in the end, I think like 95% of the world doesn't care. TTYD's almost 20 years old, no one's changing minds this late on whether Vivian is female, trans, or a crossdresser, and kids are just gonna mash through the text anyway.
>>59720 Incorrect!
>>59721 You must be the mentioned 5%.
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Lady Bow is better
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I hate this so much. This the "trans rep" that you're looking for??? Vivian should of remained just a regular girl in English so we wouldn't be subject to the ugliest "Cute" fanart you have ever seen
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>>59731 Lady Bow is best girl! Just finished doing color edits of this lovely piece by @KinkCollector on X. 2 different versions: 1st one is her classic PM1 color palette; and the 2nd one is her more modern TTYD color palette (I love both styles, and just decided to do both).
>>59736 Nothing I find funnier than people that think replying with that is an own.
>>59733 I'm just tired of them banging their drums and tooting their own horns about "finally getting trans rep" Vivian is clearly past the point where she has to have the trans additive, having actually gone full female.
>>59737 You got a Discord anon? Would be nice to talk about Bow
>>59646 Transphobia alert
>>59764 I can’t believe someone would post something so blatantly offensive. As a long time Spongebob fan, I am hurt that anyone would associate our favorite yellow guy with the groomer cult of mentally ill eunuchs.
Imagine blabbering about politics on fucking BBWChan.
>>59771 Yeah, we wanna see fat women, not even women, just things, are you restarted? Do i need to start you again?
Guys Vivian is a fucking shadow creature. Literally just a blob of darkness with a hat and hair. She’s whatever the she says she is because she is a shadow
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I be like Wario Stompin around the Mushroom Kingdom with my fat cock pokin out my purple jeans I got all this bling Sippin that Power Lean
>>59812 Your use of excessive pronouns disturbs me. Also, that whole statement is a contradiction.
Y'all are retarded
>>59820 Yeah exactly restarted
What about marilyn and beldam?
>>59815 sauce for the first one?
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>>59822 Marilyn mogs her sisters hard. Just a peaceful giant trying to do her job. Other than that, those two might be female in the og Japanese too.
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>>59832 Why don’t the other two sirens have as much controversy?
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More proof as to why Marilyn is better
Whenever I feel like what I do is pointless or a waste of time I will always have the comfort of knowing I’m not in a flame war over at most 3 text boxes. Thanks lads
Btw I made a bot request where Beldam is found immobile in the middle of the forest due to a curse that made her gain weight for every time she had insulted Vivian in some way.
>>59829 Fapolantern
BTW I saw once on deviantArt a fat lady bow art but it was premium deviantArt and I want to ask if someone can find it and post it here
Also can someone creat a fat Lady Bow, Lahla and Peeka character.ai with this art
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>>59888 So the context from what I gatber is that she’s been out of the game for a while and became overweight, but it’s ok because they Nuts & Bolts her back to normal in the next chapter.
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"Sir, the Vivian controversy and discussion has hit this thread"
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>>59952 Who cares? Lady Bow and Marilyn is where it’s at. Lady Bow is chubby and spoiled like the fat cat she is. It’s cute!
>>59888 Whoa, even the official Mario manga acknowledges the cuteness of big fat spherical boo girls! <3 Are there anymore pages with her fat before she loses the weight? What chapter/volume is this from?
>>59888 >>60032 Never mind, I found it!
>>60034 I’m assuming that was the only one because of >>59893, but what did you find. I don’t like Mario-kun too much myself.
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>>60036 That was the last page of that chapter, and the next time we see her in the next chapter she's already thin again. I gotta say Lady Bow in the Mario-kun art style is adorable! ^u^
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>>60037 Like I said she would, and she is. So why waste all these posts on Vivian? Source for these: https://www.sotwe.com/search/anthro%20lady%20bow
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Luvbi kinda counts, right?
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>>60054 Yeah, she's good!
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So many mario ghost ladies, and the thread’s being wasted on bullshit. Makes me feel like the asshole translators have won.
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>>60056 She has so much good fat art
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Considered spoiler tagging this for light slob-ish elements, but I think it's tame enough to just leave it be.
>>60159 Ok now where's the horrid hag
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>>60161 Who cares about her?
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>>60043 A sequel to one of those.
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>>60195 I was going to ask if male ghost characters are allowed for reference’s sake, but King Boo is making me think about the shocking lack of Queen Boos in here.
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>>60198 It’s because discussion was dominated by this one character, but hopefully things are on track now
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>>60328 >bumping with no images Cringe. Take these minimalist waifus.
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>>60380 That’s more like it.
Not to sound like a coward but what's anyone's opinion to my beldam story/bot thing idea? Good enough of a punishment for her?
>>60384 I love those two and I really like that last pic.
>>60384 last already posted here >:) >>59690
I remember there used to be a sequence involving vivan and peach together (might've been from SkalesStash but I'm not sure) but I can't find it anymore, anyone got it?
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>>60504 found it
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Holy Fuck what is this thread
>>60817 Can I join Super in his Mario fucking escapades?
>>60823 Yes put you have to puff up some ghosts with this vacuum thingy
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Never thought I’d see fat Doopliss
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More of best girl! <3
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Damn. What a niche ass thread. My flavourite!
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Surprised no one’s posted Madame Flurrie either
>>59690 Hey, can you get this too? https://www.patreon.com/posts/2024-06-08-105862569
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>>61387 More Doopliss?
Never thought I would ask this, but has anybody ever mistaken Madame Flurry for being a ghost before?
>>61412 Yes, the guy that posted the icons
>>61412 She doesn’t count?
>>61392 But you will get the pics of doopliss of sweet?
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>>61419 You're not missing much, it's a simple little thing. Eggdude and I are acquaintances so he inspired me a lil bit.
>>61459 Looks good to me, and thanks
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>>61459 I’ll say. It looks good, but I don’t really care about Doopliss. Have you considered doing a King (Queen) Boo from Luigi’s Mansion, Sunshine, or the basic third one? Welcome back.
>>61211 "Guh"
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Yo can anyone get this?
>>61476 wait shit i dont think this fits here
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How about just making this a greater Paper Mario/Mario RPG thread instead of just limiting it to a few characters?
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>>61521 Because we’re including ghosts from Luigi’s Mansion and maybe Super Mario Sunshine?
>>61535 Maybe we could get an entire thread for the shadow gang
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>>61554 Wouldn’t that be something @raitotunaillust
>>61554 as much as I love the shadows, a thread for 3 characters would likely not last
I doodled some vivian a few days ago spoilered because its a bit rough
>>61708 Exactly, and there’s so many mario characters to fatten >>61709 You did great, can you do Marilyn next?
>>61713 We could do like sonic and knuckles (this is a metaphor), lawk awn tecnawlogi, btw that was supposed to be a dj khaled accent
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What other Mario ghost ladies are there?
I am still unpatiently awaiting for someone to use inflation or weight gain as some kind of punishment for beldam
I saw art of an oc named Vitra, she was a shadow that had a body akin to Marilyn, since she shared candies with her, i lost the art because it got buried under the new stuff in my deviantart home page, can anyone find it?
>>62138 She also had a hat with blue stripes lines i think.
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>>62139 >>62138 >oc Cringe
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i get it
>>62145 You're allowed to have the opinion
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>>62183 >Male content on alt
>>62222 Go sit with the other pinpointers like you.
I found the image
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>>62272 >he/they Cool, whatever. Anyway, I love how even twitter normies have a subconscious agreement that Lady bow is a chubby debutante. A debu debutante if you will.
The 2nd image is a non-slob edit of the OG pic, for those that are not interested in brapping/gas. The spoiler'd image is the original version for the appreciators of culture. :3
>>62280 You have an opinion, nobody asked but all will ask upon it now.
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This guy took a break from Vivian to draw Marilyn and he’s shocked the Marilyn pic got over 1K likes. Check him out. https://nitter.poast.org/SketchCast64/media
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I found them on twitter. Anyone know who these are?
>>63265 They're the 3 sisters from Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon.
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>>63268 Obviously, I can’t believe I didn’t figure that out. Do they have fat art?
>>57044 >bringing up the Bridget thing is probably not a good look since that was a pretty clear case of activist types just harassing the company into confirming their retarded headcanons The designer who originally created Bridget straight up openly confirmed it with their statement of: "Bridget's gender identity has always been a major aspect of her character. The sudden insistence that this pillar of her character growth spanning nearly two decades is 'a new addition' is a sad misunderstanding at best and a comical delusion at worse." Imagine getting called DELUSIONAL by Bridget's own creator, yet still somehow thinking you're in the right, lmao.
>>59743 Damn, y'all really do just broadcast everything that gets under your skin huh? Literally just "T-That doesn't bother me!! How DUMB of you to think this makes me angry!! Let me rant about how NOT angry this makes me!!!" No wonder it's been so easy to bully y'all out of hobbies. :3c
Someone made a fat Vivian bot on janitor.ai here's the link https://janitorai.com/characters/f74c2424-1b17-48f8-a79f-e482711c5f0b_character-vivian , hope it works.
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Wake up thread.
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I have awakened. Take some flabby and chubby Vivian

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