>>235655 I don't get the appeal of Tailblazer at all. The way he proportions and draws ass is the most displeasing shit in existence, doesn't even draw fat chicks other than ridiculously shiny, round, but also squishy and formless asses

>>235659 *disgusted

Reposting from the last thread, fuck this gook and every closet case still carrying water for him.

>>235672 Awful roundabout way of saying you're a pedophile nigga

>>235655 unrelated: Mr Man is back and posting on tumblr lol related: The heaviness aspect of this fetish is not really used effectively, I feel. Granted it's kinda hard to depict in a still image. Stuckage wardrobe malfunction Eating food( I kinda don;t care for magic and stuff like that, they need to eat something and the weight gain should be gradual) Girl being somewhat oblivious to her appetite. Ex jock or athlete

>>235668 He said it right. Intimated

>>235672 >Keep crying about artists even after they quit Gee, I wonder why would anyone want to leave the community

Didn't realize there was another thread already. Figured this was a Squirrel Girl thread.

>>235677 See pic related and ack. Don't even try to defend yourself, just do what I tell you. >>235690 No one is crying about this faggot you brain-rotted zoomer, people are ridiculing the gook for being a cuck turned tranny. I swear to Christ Almighty that transformers is some kind of fourth-dimensional Manchurian candidate switch that turns artists into the most autistic homos imaginable.

>>235696 >"No one is crying about this faggot" >"Just ignore that greentext or the 250+ posts thread on this board" Get a job

>>235696 >"maybe if i say le slurs and big word, the big boys on 4chan will like me!!" We get it, you rape infants.

>>235698 I know you're a retard but did you skip the jeet thread out of pity or what? The cunt got raked over the coal by plenty of anons and you're a faggot for trying to imply otherwise. Do you whiteknight every hasbeen this hard or did jeet promise you a reach around? >>235702 Nigger how can you be on an image board and be triggered by slurs of all things?

>>235655 I love donkslop. Big jiggly asses with a bit of sheen on them? Don't mind if I do.

>>235672 I think he should just abandon any kink art to be happy. When kinks leak to the normal art it's looks immature and dumb

i like when people are happy with their gains former fitties becoming fat comfort gaining

Artist who stalk here, as someone trying to start getting into fetish art, how should I do so? Where do I start?

>>235741 Deveintart is probably the best place to start, it could also be worth using twitter and what ever other sites people are using these days. Post your account here once you've made it.

>>235741 Ignore bbwchan because it’s just us autists who are going to complain about you no matter what. Draw your shit and post it online, don’t expect to be making money from it, do it for the love of the lard and maybe you try your hand at commissions once you’ve gotten a stable following. If you want to get popular faster, keep your eyes on trending shows and games and make fat girls out of it. Pokemon games, FOTM shows, Vtubers, Hoyoslop, all easy places to pick from. You can also go for some “forever popular” characters like nintendo girls, tifa, big shonen series, etc. If you start out with niche nobodies or your OCs, no one is going to notice you. That’s it, that’s how you fat art

>>235741 How about you go back to reddit you fucking vine swinging nigger. And why are you posting somebody else's art, fag.

>>235744 One last thing, don’t fucking go around asking to do trades with other artists or shit like that. If they want to chat with you or do a piece with you, they’ll talk. At most, you can draw a pic of their characters around when their birthday is or if they put out another “ draw my oc in your style” trend >Source, I know two of the new nobodies from >>235691, they were invited to this they didn’t ask to be in it

>>235741 draw just pick up a oen and draw shit and youll learn probably >>235745 don't be so mean anon

I'm going to make a doujin before the thread is up.

>>235741 >>235744 >If you start out with niche nobodies or your OCs, no one is going to notice you. I'd personally argue against this point. If you want to start drawing fatties, a good place to start with is draw someone you really want to or feel like they don't get the love they deserve. A lot of us started off because people weren't drawing what we wanted to see, so we started doing it ourselves. Chasing trends can be a good way to get attention, but you should draw for yourself first and foremost. I'd say only get in on a trend if it genuinely interests you or seems fun. Aside from that, try to take note of what shapes/things appeal to you from other artists, or even real models you like. There's a multitude of shapes and looks to play around with, so have fun with it. If you have trouble understanding something, don't be afraid to trace over it to get a feel for it, so long as you don't try to pass it off as your own work.

>>235741 Draw fat art and post it here and in /d/ to gain first fallowers.

>>235805 A saying I like to remember is >Take commissions/do Patreon/Gumroad/etc. for money >Draw fanart/chase trends for followers >Do studies to get better >Draw things you like to actually stay sane

>>235741 Almost all the advice you're getting is either in the vein of non-artists (who already can't read that you ARE one) copying advice they heard existing artists give or those trying to turn it into an avenue for gathering reputation and attention. Pretty sure there are legitimate art books for fat and the actual drawing thread here has useful tips and diagrams, pick a girl you want to see with love handles and get to work. Just do the thing because you want to do it and put in the work of learning how to do it, not because you want attention.

>>235743 >>235744 >>235745 >>235746 >>235760 >>235792 >>235805 >>235806 >>235807 >>235838 OP here, genuine thanks to everyone that responded. Even that one asshole. I'm been working on improving art wise foe the past 5-6 months now. I have no clue what I'm doing, but I'm trying to start somewhere. No, I am not doing this for profit. No, I am not interested in trying to get in on art things. I just want fat ladies, and would rather draw my own than pay for them. Wish me luck, you guys might see a new artist pop up in a year or two. Any further advice, be it art or something, I'd appreciated!

>>235741 The first thing is to start drawing. It doesn't matter if you have a tablet, fancy drawing paper and graphite or just a ream of copy paper and a ballpoint pen, just get to drawing. Get some beginner books like Keys to Drawing by Bert Dodson or Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain by Betty Edwards and grind out the fundamental skills you need to draw. There's no getting around this, get good at copying and learn and internalize the theory. Once you're practiced, just start copying the stuff you wanna draw and it doesn't matter what that is but do so with the mindset that you're trying to analyze and understand what it is your copying and after you do that, try doing it yourself. Analyze what your shortcomings are afterwards and use that as a guide of what you should be practicing next whether that's anatomy, perspective, linework, etc. Do this every day for as long as you can get the time for, even 30 minutes a night will net you progress but of course, the more smart and proactive practice the better. The harsh reality is that you will suck for the first two years and it will be kinda soul crushing working for months only to have shitty drawings but keep in mind that everyone learns things differently and if you REALLY want it, you'll persevere. In time, you'll be closer to your goals. Draw a lot, be proactive, be smart and be consistent.

>>235839 Here's a list of resources from /ic/ btw. Again, shore up your basic fundamental skills that you need to draw in the first place and then tackle some books and material for things you wanna improve at. https : // sites . google . com / site / ourwici /

>>235839 here's my advice as a retardist. First off you have the right mindset of doing it for the love of the game; I started because I always wanted to and felt I could provide more of the kind of content I want to see. Practical advice: >>235864 >>235865 mentioned most of it as I was typing it out you fucker but 100% solid stuff. Personal advice: don't hyperfixate too hard on learning any one aspect, it's better to revisit it multiple times as your skills grow (lots of skills are transferrable between construction, anatomy, etc). spend time doing gesture regularly every day, it helps you a lot in understanding how to approach poses. personally I found jumping into harder material more rewarding (despite poor results) than sticking exclusively to simpler books like Fun With A Pencil. I will shill Hampton's Figure book because it worked for me but that ain't a guarantee. work on your fucking strokes and line control, don't chicken scratch and draw from your wrist instead of your arm. I'm going to double down on the printer paper and pencil point anon made. It's good that you're being realistic about timespans but if you semi grindset you can start producing perfectly mid results like I did within 2 years, don't be discouraged, but you're gonna suck and it's gonna suck. And don't let the /ic/rabs drag you down, just steal their resources. I can send you shit if you want. wagmi

I think this is the best shape I have ever seen this board in

>>235839 Good luck out there! In a similar boat to learning to draw fat girls, but I'm definitely wanting to make it a bigger part of my life. I just want to overcome my biggest issue of rampant perfectionism aka being way too slow. Not sure I could even justify an art improvement thread being made again tho.

>>235839 If you want just draw for yourself so here is enough good advices. My advice is that you need a clear goal and learn what exactly you need to know to achieve it and what you DON'T need to learn because it's have nothing with your goal. One of the best books about understanding forms is a Hampton one. And here is a lot of good art guides on YouTube too.

New thread, same autists here to spout our shit >>235655 >fav tropes Contrast is a good one that a lot of people attempt, but I rarely see it truly done THAT well. A lot of this is because this trope is often implemented to compare one fat chick to an even fatter chick. Problem is, it can be very easy to undermine just how fat the smaller fat chick is to a regular person, so the true effectiveness of the contrast becomes a little lost. Even when the contrast is between a fat girl and a skinny girl, I feel that it's not done that well because there's too many fat artists that don't really know how to draw skinny girls all that well. Like their artstyle might be normally stretched out and weird looking because they only draw fat chicks, so when they draw skinny characters it just looks too cartoonish for their skinny characters to even have attractive designs. Basically, you need a good artist that is really good with the proportions of both skinnies AND fats, has a good sense of illustrating depth in their works, and also can cohesively draw both characters in the scene so that they look like they're both actually there. Doesn't even have to be a super detailed art-style or anything. W-oo-T comes to mind as an artist who drew this kind of thing fairly well in some of his past works. >>235672 Jeet is pretty lame, aint he? Cool pic related too. Wonder who made it >>235839 >I just want fat ladies. Draw them myself than pay for them. Ah, that is a tricky thing that comes with a dilemma. Drawing stuff yourself will never be as titillating as stumbling across something hot in the wild. Still, it's not too hopeless. Once I've finished with an artpiece/writing, barring any edits in post I have to make, I usually don't even look at it again until years later. By then, I will usually have forgotten most of it, so then when I look at it, it'll basically be the same experience as if I just randomly found a drawing/writing that just so happens to align with things I like. 'course, it only works if you can actually draw well though.

>>235741 Don't fucking use BWS as your goal for one thing. Aside from him being shit, he only draws large women who are extremely hard to draw anatomywise. You need to start skinny and go from there. Just don't become a blobshitter.

>>236066 I haven't had anything to add so far as another junior artist, but this is my chance to whine and complain about how fucking annoying it is drawing fat women. I've gotten better by studying, but going from having a passable understanding of normal figures to trying to draw fat women was ASS. I briefly considered throwing in the towel and just being a normal person who draws normal people but I need my custom made fat of she (because in my heart of hearts I know that I only got this far by loving the game)

>>236070 >was the site ALWAYS this bad? Yes. Next question

>>236070 >was the site ALWAYS this bad? Twitter wasn't anywhere near close to the shithole it is today before the tumblr porn ban, and their shitty behavior reeks on this site as well.

>>236070 Tumblr banned porn so you're just left with people extremely fixated on "fat bodies" and "representation"

>>236069 Drawing fat bodies is kind of a different ballgame than drawing normal anatomy because all the stuff you learned with regular or ideal proportions goes out the window, you're not alone because it's something that mosts fetish artists have to go through to include myself. Keep hammering your fundamentals though and learn from life, all the stuff you learn can only help you even if it's not immediately obvious. The stylization will come naturally once you develop a solid foundation for yourself btw. One of the more frustrating parts of learning to draw is wondering when your "style" will start to manifest but it will when you stop paying attention, all in due time.

>>236070 Yes. And this execute for intentionally ugly art styles because mah style excuse. Nah it's shit. Even grotesque cartoons had an aesthetics and was not just ugly for no reason. I remember a Tumblr around 2016, was the same shit and lots of blogs by a loud nobodyes with a incompetent critique of any good designs from a games, animu, etc. Sort of "acshually original Asuka design was shit here is my ugly version!"

>>236069 >>236089 Drawing circletool stuff or the synecdoche/kip/metalforever brand "draw a skinny girl but give her a potbelly and giant tits and thighs" is one thing, but drawing actually anatomically sound fat is another. In some ways a lot of tricky anatomical stuff like bone and muscle definition gets covered up in layers of fat, but now you have to contend with a lot of malleable organic forms and have to take gravity and such into account. Everything between "chubby girl" and blobshit is super hard for that reason

>>235741 I'm in kinda the same boat. Been posting on deviantart for about a year but only just starting to get a bit of traction now. I don't really like to post my own art here because 1. It feels cringe, and 2. I take it as a big compliment when someone reposts one of my fatties. I do like to do the odd request from the draw thread when it matches my interests tho. For actual anatomy practice, the book Morpho fat and skin folds helped me a lot. You gotta understand how the bones and muscle work underneath the fat, and that fat doesn't build up as just a uniform layer on top!

>>236070 Gollygeo is a batshit troon but his art is appealing at least and he managed to bag a 400lb GF.

>>236094 Yeah. I always think of something like Ren and Stimpy where it's ugly and grotesque but in a stylized way, compared to art like this, where its just horrendously ugly because... well they are. >>236099 I think he's gotten worse over time and he's so fucking insufferable that I just cannot tolerate his bullshit. Sure he might have a gf but a relationship built primarily around a fetish (which is 99% of Geotroons life) will never end well. I think his art is genuinely tumblr tier levels of ugly.

>>236099 I like the body and colors but her "face" looks like a melted bread. This is not even close to any human proportion, her upper half of the face is smaller than a lower half like she is a neanderthal.

Random question, any thoughts on the “fat girl complains about small chest not growing” trope? I find it cute and funny depending on the art piece.

>>235839 Practice and fundamentals are super important like others have said, but don't forget you're doing this for fun. If you get too caught up in the "practice and grind" mindset you might burn out, so make sure you pace yourself and occasionally take on projects that are fun or interesting. Reference photos and pictures are you friend, so make sure you grab those whenever something catches your interest, especially for interesting poses or angles. Having organized and clean work spaces, real or digital, can do wonders for productivity too. >>235883 >biggest issue of rampant perfectionism aka being way too slow. I know this pain all too well... >Not sure I could even justify an art improvement thread being made again tho. I liked the last one, even though I fell off of commenting and never posted anything of my own because I am a coward. Personally I think it'd be useful, and we've had dumber threads come and go all the time. >>235892 >learn what exactly you need to know to achieve it and what you DON'T need to learn because it's have nothing with your goal. I'd argue it's good to know a little bit of everything. It's part of why art classes sometimes teach you a bit about different mediums or have you draw a variety of subjects, because some skills are transferable and it helps you learn how to look at and approach things in different ways.

>>236103 I just hate that Lewdoole almost never posts anymore and half the photos are on Gollygeo's twitter where you have to expose yourself to his own grotesque photos.

>>236094 I don’t know if this is a shit take or not but honestly I feel like the kind of hideous art coming out of Tumblr has the OPPOSITE effect of what it wants to go for. Think about it. You feel awful about your body type. Suddenly, you hear that there’s a whole platform of people giving folks like you representation. Excited at the idea of finally feeling seen and appreciated, you instead get… … that. How would you feel if every time someone like you was drawn, they were always grotesque and disgusting and had all the features you dislike about yourself highlighted? Wouldn’t it leave you feeling discouraged and condescended seeing every depiction of someone like you made into a laughable caricature of your body type and told you’re not allowed to feel desired or wanted sexually by people who claim to have your best interests in mind? These artists are nothing but grifters acting in bad faith. Letting people feel alluring and desirable is key to helping their confidence in a meaningful way. Having BBWs and SSBBWs drawn in an appealing way helps reinforce that they CAN look good and not feel ashamed. Anyways, sperg-out over. That’s just my two cents.

>>235655 >Before we continue, what are some of your favorite tropes in FA? Squishing a girl's extra chubby cheeks or jiggling her chins. Jury-rigged clothing, like a crop top that should be a tshirt, or using a bra to support blubber wings or back rolls. Treating fatties like pets, speaking to her in a the same way you would to a puppy wagging its tail when you put treats in its bowl, filling a trough with cake and watching her eat it on all fours and lots of petting and tummy rubs. It gives me a special feeling that I like. (I hate pig play though, it's just demeaning in a way that I don't find sexy) Introducing haughty girls used to refined meals to greasy, fattening fast food in ridiculous portion sizes and watching them become addicted to the slop. "Defanging" strong women by making them soft and round. Sporty tomboys, feared warrior women and martial artists, vicious big catgirls and devious villains should all be pampered, dependent and only dangerous if they accidently sit on you. Thank you for coming to my TEDTalk

Can we just take this discussion thread to here instead?? https://bbw-chan.link/gen/

>>236207 That board shouldn't even exist. It has the traffic of an abandoned cornfield and no clear direction or unified userbase

>>236201 pretty based take tbh

>>236201 >these real life mentally ill fat people are drawing fictional mentally ill fat people/their own self portraits wrong! imagine a fake person I made up who'd feel bad looking at it! You're correct that this was a sperg-out. Tumblr is not an effective platform for grifting lmfao, these are independent artists drawing their own reality. What you're suggesting is that it's bad that people represent their own physical traits in their personal artworks and that every drawn picture of a fat person should be a fappable idealized SS/BBW with no portrayal of the actual traits 90% of real fat women have. No one is obligated to NOT draw themselves to a hideous degree, they have their own audience in their echo chamber of depressed queers who actually do like it and feel represented by it.

>>235660 well that's subjective, personally I saw that squirrelgirl art and immediately saved it to my harddrive lol, I've also seen other people complain about BBL on other boards where I find it really attractive, it's just personal taste

>>236242 its ass focused and shouldn't be on BBWdraw

>>236245 Please take your schizo medication before posting on BBWchan please.

>>236201 Now I see it. This is like to draw an actual racist caricature to "empower" some etnicety

Stupid question, but when creating a thread you use subject to make sure it has an actual title in the catalog? >>236184 >Personally I think it'd be useful, and we've had dumber threads come and go all the time. Agreed, I was in there a lot too, but didn't want to just flood it with my wips. Honestly, with the traffic here there's no reason not to do that. Been frequenting some other draw resources so I'll compile what I got here. I'll create one in just a bit, but it'll knock down the old draw thread so I'm going through saving what I want before it's gone.

>>236236 Eh, fair enough

>>236270 Yes. The "name" field is supposed to be blank aka Anonymous. The "subject" field gives your thread a title.

>>235655 Oh right. Guess I should respond to the actual question OP posited about FA tropes. First off, I’m a sucker for post-marital weight gain. Something about seeing a woman balloon up because they now have someone who likes to pamper them with homemade comfort food makes me froth and hoot like a chimp. It’s like feederism I guess but the weight gain is more of a side effect than the end goal. Another poster here mentioned fat girls complaining about their small chests which a pretty based take. The idea of a beanpole goinf hog wild on stuffing themselves to get curvier only to realize that’s not how fat works is equal parts endearing and funny as fuck. Idk how realistic this one is but I have a soft spot for strongfats. I like the juxtaposition between seeing someone you’d assume would be lazy and inactive then suddenly seeing them move about and perform physical activity at a considerable level of performance. Plus I like that it can reasonably offset some of the negatives of a bad lifestyle. Guess I just like badass fatties lol. Pics somewhat related

>>236286 FUCK THEY DIDNT POST

I hope that somehow paradigm would shift and artists would draw whatever they want without reading this stupid comments from literally nobodyes. Because here is no reason to change your way to appeal to the people who is against shit you like. Normally you don't want to appeal to the flat earthers, for example. Even with the art you can just don't engage in conversation with any jobless faggot who would scream in internet about next made up taboo.

>>236362 As someone who wants to draw more, I’m always super paranoid about how people might react to the content whenever I decide to do something ever so slightly outside of the norm. Hopefully I can break that mindset.

>>236362 >>236363 To use loli as an example, just remember that the retards telling you to draw differently to suit their own needs always have skeletons in their closet. Hell, just look at kreat for instance to see how trying (and failing) to chance clout ruins an artist with no hope of recovery.

>>236390 >hes bringing up lolis again Just wank and go do something productive please.

>>236417 Sorry bud, lolicons have to play defense 24-7 or else…actually I’m not sure why they constantly do this shit. I’m going to assume it’s because of subconscious shame or some other nonsense

>>236422 I don't give a shit about the ethics, its just every time lolis are brought up the thread descends to absolute shit for 100 posts

>>236363 You really shouldn't give it any mental energy. Anti-loli people or whatever brand of puritan you're afraid of only have power if you actually listen to them- if you just ignore them, all of their whining is just hot air. Just keep your mouth shut, draw whatever you want, and never ever ever EVER engage with those kinds of people. >>236425 There's really only so many ways you can have the >loli bad >no loli is based >no shut up lolicon >no shut up anti >no shut up lolicon >etc... conversation. Just ignore those faggots, they're clearly not here to change their minds.

>>236468 Roundabout way of saying "I like raping children!" mr Insecure.

>>236468 >>236472 >mfw bbw-chan spends more time talking about lolicon than about bbws

>>236286 >>236287 Peak, a man of culture I see

>>236686 Bro I love this artist!

>>236686 it's crazy how this dude has been drawing the same scenario for 2 years and people still eat it up, he also has barely improved in his artistic abilities at all

>>236390 Kreat? Why bring that fucker up?

>>236507 I honestly don't understand it. Comparing loli shit to actual pedo shit. Is like comparing putting thumb tacks into the tips of nerf darts; to sarin gas bombing a daycare. One is annoying and unpleasant, and the other is a crime against humanity.

Merry christmas everyone! I hope your christmas goes well and isn't too lonely. please stay safe and i wish you the best for 2025!

>>236915 this is by far the single most sane bbw-chan comment i've ever seen, thanks stranger

>>236916 >his name includes schizo irony lmao

>>236916 its because i went back on my meds and became normal again sometimes people just need a reminder to be normal and epic again

>>236915 thank you klaudoschizo…

Merry Christmas lads. Get yourself a fat animu waifu and snuggle with her under a blanket while watching Love Actually.

>>236934 please stay safe >>236936 my goal for 2025 is to gain more weight so this works perfectly

Who would be a new popular waifus in the next year?

>>236958 it will depend on what new exciting anime and game comes out. the 2025 waifu is from something we don't yet know exists

Do you guys think this is traced?

>>237481 I am suspicious of the artist who made the first, third and fifth picture. They only mention the first artwork being "referenced" after someone called them out in one of the threads.

If not outright traced then definitely used as a reference.

>>237481 Honestly not sure. He can use something as a ref, but in general you are not copy a ref. You just watch it and be like ok so this is a general direction. I don't even see a reason to copy it like he does because this is the most easy poses.

>>235655 >Before we continue, what are some of your favorite tropes in FA? It's so simple because it comes from a simple speech bubble but an insanely fat, visibly stuffed girl finishing like an entire buffet and saying something along the lines of being only half full, only an appetizer, etc always has me diamonds.

>>237481 Traced? Maybe, maybe not. Heavily referenced? Absolutely. If the non-BWS pics aren’t commissions or patreon stuff though it’s fine, it helps people practice so they can learn. If people paid for that then yeah no fuck that

>>237502 yeah they're fine, to be honest i respect that they actually seem to be trying to reinterpret the pose instead of just drawing lines over the previous drawing i know you're still lurking in here, sevenbyseven...dont ever think we will miss you.

>>237481 Traced? No, the lines and forms don't match up. Copied? Absolutely, no doubt. I'd wager they just had the original pics on a separate monitor, and just did the ol' "Draw what you see".

>>237481 First one is 100% traced. Second one is traced but appears to have been slightly edited by whoever traced it. Third looks referenced but is a lot more jank, i would say either put through a low AI image generator or just copied weirdly.

>>237541 Please take your medication.

>>237481 Wow, some really did read my comment after all lmao

Anyway he clearly heavy referenced/traced the original because if he did everything from the scratch he would do a part 2 right because it is a one structure. You cant draw a part one properly and then connect a part two 100% wrong if you do it from scratch. Anyway he did one big mistake and if he read it I`d tell him a solution - dont learn from a fat art. The only hard part is a basic anatomy structure and then you add a fat, and not over way.

Once my art teacher told me Picasso's famous phrase, but the truth is this is stupid.

>>237566 I don't understand how what I posted was worthy of that. I posted my opinion on the topic at hand. Are you mentally retarded or just a giant fat fucking nerd?

>>237598 That's not even the right context. Picasso was paraphrasing T. S. Eliot, who actually said: “Immature poets imitate; mature poets steal; bad poets deface what they take, and good poets make it into something better, or at least something different. The good poet welds his theft into a whole of feeling which is unique, utterly different than that from which it is torn.” So the point isn't to literally steal from artists; on the contrary, it's denouncing that. It's to iterate on what exists and turn it into your own thing, which by default should turn into something wholly separate from the original.

>>237783 The irony of people misunderstanding the poetic usage of "stealing" here in this context is just delicious.

>>235864 >start drawing

No comment.

happy 2025! i hope this year is a big win for everyone and nothing bad happens and also the year has more fat

>>237802 those don't look like boobs

>>237802 If you drew more than shapes you might actually get somewhere especially seeing as the 3d on the cubes and cylinders looks good. Actually try drawing a person, study anatomy, trial and error that stuff now, because you wont learn to draw people by drawing shapes.

>>238011 Thank you Mei! I hope you would live in the better game like a fortnite.

Was Takamoom always an AGP weirdo after trooning out or is this a recent development?

>>238485 God, what the fuck happened to this dude? His old art was so great...seems like we lost another artist

>>238485 I know we love fatties and huge boobs and all that but doesn't it seem in poor taste to point at someone having a genuine, real medical condition and going "GOD I WISH THAT WERE ME"?

>>238485 How is this autogynephilia you fucking retard? It's a fat fetishist gooning over fat tits. That simple. You fucking idiot chuds always try to make it some other bullshit when it isn't to justify whatever preconceived notion of perversion someone transitioning has. Newsflash retard of course they're perverts. They draw porn. You're a fucking pervert too

>>238499 Hi Moomy, you're a weirdo for fetishizing a woman's medical condition.

>>238500 You are on a fat fetish board retard!!!!!

>>238501 And you're genuinely a gross person retard!!!!

ummmmmm yall know takamoom is a woman right? She had a photo a year or two ago on twitter. and im pretty sure she is being unironic and was literally implying in that post that she wants her breast(not her whole body) to grow since she is woman(like I said already)

>>238503 Slick counterargument too bad it goes both ways. Newsflash dumbfuck: obesity is a medical condition! Every bbw porno you've splooged to is fetishizing a medical condition. That simple! I've got none of this weighing on my conscience - do you think I'm whacking my pud to this chick's tits? I'm not nor do I care >>238504 I don't know or care who this person is I just know calling it AGP is retarded

>>238499 >>238501 >>238506 You know what they say about hit dogs and hollering...

>>238513 Yeah... I do... Mr Ellipses... I had to scroll down through a bunch of lolicon pedophiles try to explain why they weren't pedophiles Unfortunately this isn't really anything resembling a comeback. The hit dog hollers - what exactly here has hit home for me or that I'm being defensive about? I'm on the attack here. It's the hypocrisy and retroactive justification of bigotry that has my hackles up. I think big tits are gross but the hypocrisy there is pretty good too

>>238506 >Every bbw porno you've splooged to is fetishizing a medical condition. There's a difference between someone knowingly and willingly catering to a fat fetish and filming porn that they sell versus someone being afflicted with a medical condition they didn't ask for.

>>238528 That's facts. That being said, the woman is anonymous and willingly had her image shared. It sucks but clearly she had surgery as it says it was pre-op. It's not much different than leering at some woman on the street or jacking off to those gross videos they used to make of guys with hip-level cameras following overweight women around grocery stores or Walmart. Or jacking off to plus size models on Instagram who don't want to be fetishized at all, or weight loss before/afters, or those bizarre celebrity fat morphs on deviantart. Those are all pretty weird too but I didn't see people making it a political/identity thing when they were posting WIDEST ASS EVER on Xhamster in 2010, because this culture war shit hadn't turned a lot of anons brains into mush yet I'm also sure a good chunk of those women did not ask for those medical conditions. Some did but many suffered from them before, maybe all the way back to before or during puberty, and saw a way to make money off of it in adulthood. You can never be sure the body image these people have outside of personas they put on for gooners. There are probably a few dozen creators that are posted about on /bbw/ or /ssbbw/ that have quit because they find it degrading or they decided to lose weight or they had a mental breakdown. All porn involving real people in that manner is inherently exploitative regardless of if the person making it knows it or not

>>238488 >>238500 >>238503 Given the perversion of the internet, are you people *really* surprised that the article of "Woman takes vaccine, her breasts quintuple in size" is met by anything but amusement from most men?

>>238550 Yes, from men

>we're doing the troon-pedo discourse for the 100th time good job faggots

Didn’t where else to ask, so I’ll just do it here. What 3D artists are currently taking commissions?

>>238485 I'm pretty sure thousands of people independently made the exact same "OMG the vaccine gives you big boobies??? sign me up!!!" joke. Is it distasteful? Probably, but it really isn't worth having a moral panic over

>>238557 What do you mean?

>>238485 >>238488 >>238500 >>238503 This is the fat bitch porn website you fucking soccer moms

So this Catboymech artist really leave Twitter so she would have less commissioners as a result? Such a good business strategy.

>>238729 Conspiracy theory: It's one giant convoluted way so her followers are less likely to find that she was following loli/sho artists as well as Shadman.

Screw this, resetting the topic: Who are some upcoming artists that have potential to get good in this scene? No nonsense, just good art?

>>238784 I've liked DavielwFries, there artstyle with coloring is very soft, and easy on the eyes. With over 11k followers I'm not sure if you can count it as "upcoming" but he's still relatively new on the scene, so he has time for further development. He has some work to do on anatomy and forms, but there's always room for growth. Of course given that he often does immobile, you may not find him to taste.

>>238786 *their, I'm a moron.

>>238485 Yes, dude's been a fucking weirdo for as long as I can remember. Even if I do like his art generally, I couldn't be assed to follow him because his personality is so rancid. And that's saying quite a lot seeing how high my tolerance for shit is. >>238548 >Those are all pretty weird too but I didn't see people making it a political/identity thing when they were posting WIDEST ASS EVER on Xhamster in 2010, because this culture war shit hadn't turned a lot of anons brains into mush yet More like people were well aware that shit was weird and kept it to themselves. Whether intentionally or not, they didn't loudly proclaim how hot any of that was on a public forum, they just fapped to it and moved on. It's less culture war/IDpol nonsense and more of a wider issue of how sites like Twitter encourages people like Moom to be tactless boor's for clout. It's off-putting.

>>238800 Never really followed artists’ antics since I grab most of my art from dA and here so seeing how many of these people are completely fucking deranged is a shock. What the legitimate FUCK is that Takamoom tweet dawg

>>238741 >as well as Shadman God damn, what kind of atomic vice-like grip, does she have on her followers dicks?! >>238784 None; everyone's bottoming out a lot quicker these days.

>>238786 Pretty good stuff! >>238485 I miss a time where drawing fetish art means you are a normal person who occasionally can draw a weird art and not a pornsick weirdo like this clurfs guy Shmorky. Honestly I very tired of this insane time. Can't wait when a pendulum would swing again. I was in art circles for so many years and it was never so terrible retarded

>>238820 It's impossible to be a porn artist and not eventually decay into pornsickness. Being exposed to porn period is harmful, creating it is far worse. This is a natural path for anyone, and we're just finally seeing in the past few years the effect years of unrestricted internet porn has on people.

>>238485 He'll never be Norma Stitz.

>>238820 God you people are retarded. Fetish artists were always weirdos (remmeber dobson?) and if you think it's worse now then you're just revealing that you're probably underage on top of being ESL.

Where the fuck did all these prudes come from? Takamoom is a freak and I'll laugh at him when he acks himself, but this soccer mom bullshit is lame and gay.

>>238982 >Where the fuck did all these prudes come from? Tranny faggot fatigue. We all just want to see fat women without watching porn addicted losers who spend all their time on twitter and in discord servers "suddenly" developing a fetish for fat 12 year old boys or a serve case of AGP. If anyone tells you that the slippery slope isn't real then laugh in his face.

>>238989 You sound like a faggot who gets triggered when people point out how all trannys look like chris chan. >>239000 Trips of truth, unfortunately. The internet is so neutered compared to what it used to be and that goes for all types of websites. Going back to your earlier statement you're right, people just want to see soft girls that look good and not drown in faggot drama caused by artists who suddenly decided they need an axe wound after gooning too hard. Porn addiction has always been a thing with artists but it was never this bad in the BBW sphere; artists used to have enough sense to keep the freaky stuff to themselves even when twitter was infested by leftoids in the early 2010's. Something about 2020 absolutely destroyed these people and turned them into muppets.

>>238856 Eh, the problem is more it feels like it due to people having less shame. I would say most have a good head on their shoulders, which is why you dont see a lot posted from them besides art. You only notice the one that is going super degenerate since some just becomes too open and degenerate on their accounts etc. There are plenty that just posts and doesn't say anything and I know a handful of artists that have been drawing days for a while and is normal. Even one or two also voicing opinions about wanting to create something more fulfilling than just porn after doing it for so long.

>>238982 People are acting like this is some insane moral injustice to make light of this condition or something when it's just someone saying they want big boobs in response to a news story about a big boob disease. Who fucking cares?

>>238984 Once someone invited me to the discord server about fat art and it was disgusting. Just a bunch of horny dudes rp with each other, lots of meme posting and uwu rp with me shit. Of corse futa because it is always a futa. Was a generic sausage party where everyone rps as they girls as, so I leave asap >>239014 Yes all of this and a normalizing of extrimely infantile discussion style around 2015 with a Tumblr slop

>>239020 Learn to read nigger, I'm laughing at the pearl clutching dipshits. >>239034 Everything wrong with the internet crawled out of the open cyst that was tumblr, and the infantile discussion style you've mentioned is due to a bunch of unfuckable women demanding that standards be lowered so they'd feel better about themselves. That opened the floodgates for trannys and other porn addicts to infest social media and look where we are now.

oh hey, this seems like a better place than the drawthread to ask, what do you guys think about making a fat low poly game like this? >>239090

>>239105 Fetish game is a fap material so it should looks better than a few triangles. I don't even understand what is a real reason to do it low poly, this is not an rts in 2004, unless you want to create an rts and you can put this low poly bitches in formation like nurglings in total war game

>>239105 There are basically two types of fat fetish game imo: Either the "game" elements are minimal and exist solely to add interactiveness to pictures wich are the primary focus. (think VNs or clicker games) Or the game/story elements are the priority and the occasional picture is there as a visual aid to guide your imagination. A game like this seems to be trying to meet in the middle with simple graphics that are still a key focal point. But games Like that usually just end up being a normal game with a fat MC

>>239109 > I don't even understand what is a real reason to do it low poly It's the current fad, that's all. You'll remember that a decade ago every hack was doing faux-NES sprites, which looked awful btw, and now it's the PSX's turn. What's funny is that the creatures that make these games always skip the SNES because they can't match the quality of those sprites lmao.

>>239109 Any game trying to do low poly PSX style right now should just be avoided period. It's almost certainly a fucking loser making them. Same fucks making another 100 "le indie gem pixelshit rougelite"

>>239109 >>239113 And no one making shit like RPG maker games and text adventures, are artists. >A game like this seems to be trying to meet in the middle with simple graphics that are still a key focal point. But games Like that usually just end up being a normal game with a fat MC Only ever seen Atlyss in that group.

>>239186 >>239210 I'm so tired of low poly. Feels lazy. Not a game dev, so correct me. Puppet Combo did it, made money, and YouTubers eat it up. Can feitsh games also try something other than rpg snd vm slop? I enjoy them, but if it isn't a visual novel or rpg, good luck.

>>239216 I remember seeing that game that was big like a month ago, the one about rape in space with the girl everyone was simping over. I thought the first time I saw her it was a bad model of Shelley Duvall from a shitty licensed Shining game. That was the biggest one, but so many other even lazier ones sprouted up a similar time.

>>239084 >Learn to read nigger, I'm laughing at the pearl clutching dipshits. So am I lmao, chill with the friendly fire.

>>239105 There's an art/critique thread over here >>236337 It's mostly drawing but 3D is allowed too. >>239109 >>239129 >>239186 >>239216 I'll never understand the hatred for low poly/pixel indie stuff. I won't deny it's a fad, but it's also a good starting point for gamedev/asset creation that isn't just plucking shit from the Unity store.

>>239240 Take your medicine, schizophreniac.

>>239238 There's a constant biblical flood of them, with the good ones being a drop in a bucket; that's an easy way for something to be seen as shit across the board. You can't even focus on the story of a RPG Maker game because that tends to be just as shit.

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>>239004 >Porn addiction has always been a thing with artists but it was never this bad in the BBW sphere; artists used to have enough sense to keep the freaky stuff to themselves even when twitter was infested by leftoids in the early 2010's. Something about 2020 absolutely destroyed these people and turned them into muppets.

>>239280 Got it in one, a picture really is worth a thousand words.

>>239280 Based my friend. Who the fuck cares about this shit I want to see pictures of anime girls dying of heart disease

>>239324 Guys, we got another twitter retard!

>>239339 >retardation is called out >"it must be le... le... le XITTER RETARD!!!" Sorry that the trannies live rent free in your head anon.

I'm gonna throw a (maybe) dumb question into the void- What happened to the forcefeeding/force fattening idea? I feel like it's become very rare. The only sources these days is AI art, which means it's a demand that isn't being supplied. Is it just understood that it usually needs to be a sequence, and most artist make you pull out your wallet for those? Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places, or just evil.

>>239339 Now that you say this I've seen a large upswing in the amount of faggots defending xitter lately. Like not even the artists still on the site, just the concept of xitter itself like it's an institution to them. >>239384 Pearl clutching faggots and unfuckable women have equated force feeding with rape, it's that simple.

>>239384 How rare it is really just depends on the medium. In art? It’s fairly uncommon but there are some artists who primarily do it. In games and written works? It’s fucking everywhere (or at least it feels like it to me) Honestly though with how many people are making fattywank stuff across so many different sites nowadays how popular/unpopular something is can be very different from user to user. Also the patreon thing (patreon threatened to ban people who were doing non-con stuff, including forcefeeding) which probably made a lot of artists lean on the side of caution to protect themselves.

>>239384 As another anon said, some sites in their rules equate any sort of nonconsensual sexual activity with rape(yes, in the context of the fat fetish, feeding would be considered a sexual activity). So some artists may refrain out of fear, though I don't know of any cases of it happening.

>>239387 >the woke leftoids faggots are taking away the force feeding

>>239216 i think it can look cute, but its also a matter of time, since I actually want to put a proper game out instead of patreon baiting forever. I can kinda do regular looking stuff too(my work is in >>236337 so you can judge for yourself), but the scope of the game would blow out of proportion

>>239448 I know you're a faggot, but you could at least pretend to not be triggered. >>239449 It looks good when done well, but just like the faux-NES fad of the last decade too many retards totally half-ass it instead of studying the limitations of the PSX to get the authentic feel.

>>239384 >What happened to the forcefeeding/force fattening idea? The fetish moved beyond cartoony expansion cliches a while ago broski.

>>239514 >TFW you see an anon presenting another anon with that bullshit Everything the creators do is either a cliche or a joke.

>>239514 Boring. I don't know if "moving on" to everybody having DreamWorks faces as they hold hands and get fat together is very appealing. Especially if that new fetish space means having only Pin-Ups and comics that are glacially paced to keep Patreon subscriptions coming in. I want to see the track runner that just completed a marathon they trained years for, have their life ruined by mounds of fat forced onto them. And I mean non-con ruining. Anyways I'll see my sadistic self out

Who was the most overrated waifu of the past year?

>>239579 I noticed that I've grown a bit more tired of FOTMs and the go to normie pics for fat art but can usually at least see why others like them. But Pomni was just bad, a lot of artists I like drew her and it just never works and I don't even dislike Digital Circus.

>>239579 >>239589 Pomni was definitely the worst from last year, but to give my own answer, I'd say anyone from Plus Sized Elf. Artists barely deviated from what they did with those girls, Elfuda being the boring chubby/fat girl and Kuroeda being the boring "ass" girl. They wore out their welcome fast, and there was no effort into keeping them fresh. Falin from Delicious in Dungeon (specifically her chimera form) is another one I got sick of.

>>239592 I personally think characters who are already fat tend to be the worst for art, because they tend to stick to the existing version of the character. With a skinny girl, you can come up with any scenario that makes sense, with any fat distribution you feel like, while fat elves are already fat in a certain way. Also fuck Pomni, that show is fucking zoomer garbage, absolute slopbait, and I am glad Pomni was ruined by youtube kids slop and made into content farm crap. If only the creator would stop drawing brain-drilling fetish art and join her.

>>239579 I don't find flavor of the month characters too annoying, but I am bored of legacy characters like Chun Li, Samus, Pokehoes, Lucy Fairytale etc getting art. But more than any particular character I dislike trendchasing artists or artists whose taste is so shallow they only draw whatever's trending on social media. Frieren's character designs win most boring of the year though. Babby's first "deep" shounen anime too. My anime of the year (2024) you might ask? Makeine and Nige Jouzu Wakagimi. >>239589 >>239592 >>239606 Raggedy mogs hard dollpposedly.

>>239579 >waifu

>>239648 Alright let's change the name into "token whore", because that's what they are, no substance, no personality, no nothing, only a piece of ass just to attract the lowest common denominator. Enjoy your NTR's in disguise weebtards.

>>239579 >Moeshit language Something occurred to me as I gazed upon the glorious aesthetics of this CHAD. He is just a ripped as fuck ayy. Nothing more nothing less. Obviously everyone can see that, and it's been criticized many times. What people failed to see however, was that therein lies the value. His simplistic, "boring" design was not an accident. It was a symbol. A symbol for his belief in absolute strength. You see, CHADren is unique among the many antagonists Goku faced in that he is simply strong. Nothing more, nothing less. He doesn't have weird gimmicks, he doesn't have fancy techniques that border on magic, his race doesn't have weird biological gifts, he doesn't have transformations. He's just fucking strong because he worked for it. And with that raw strength he surpasses everything, no gimmick works on him, no transformation helps, even freezing him in time doesn't defeat him. He was the first antagonist since VEGETA to mercilessly shoot down every single thing the protagonists tried. Nothing fucking worked against this guy. Technically he was even worse than Vegeta, since at least Vegeta took damage, (he just kept standing up like he had protagonist-tier plot stamina), but Jiren was straight up invincible. Then MUI happened, Gokek did it, he achieved the impossible, he's finally surpassed Jiren in power, he can win! Except no, he fucking doesn't. At the end of it they had to basically meme Jiren out of the ring to win because he was required to lose one way or another. >>239667 >Kekold fantasies Kekarroo! Bejita sperms really do be like that!

>>239676 Hang yourself, faker

I'm glad to see everyone hates pomni, that show is garbage and she became an icon of xitter slop overnight.

>>239723 It's probably the second worst indie animation I've ever seen in terms of quality and influence and only really Hazbin Hotel is worse Horrorshit with no defining characteristics other than "le nostalgic digital art style guise!" and being "le relatable" to their audience. Bet in 10 episodes time we will find out that Pomni is a heckin wholesome transgender and the digital circus is a metaphor for coming out.

>>239726 In terms of quality? Man it’s not even close, they do seem to put a lot of effort into the animation than shit like vivziepop or most startup animators In terms of influence though Holy shit there is literally nothing worse, I’ve never seen anything more clearly astroturfed to be a content farm slop machine for youtube kids channels and bullshit merch

>>239726 > "le nostalgic digital art style guise!" I can't say I see the appeal. I know the 30 year cycle is a real phenomenon, but outside of this show and the glut of faux PSX indie games the low-poly fad has failed to launch. As far as pomni being a tranny goes that's just a given, and knowing the studio it'll absolutely cater to the terminally online for virtue points. More to the purposes of this site, pomni looks like the rankin-bass version of gollum and for the life of me I cannot see the appeal in her design. I know most artists just draw a better woman and then stick her head on it but that just underlines how fake the fxiation is.

>>239729 I would argue the only good part of Vivziepop work is the animation, and I appreciate it far more than TADC because at least theres some fucking energy to it. The clownslop animation is just slightly bouncy, loose CGI. I actually said the same thing about TADC being astroturfed slop at the time to my friends and nobody believed me, I saw it and knew immediately they were targeting the mascot horror genre. When I first saw it posted somewhere thought it was another mascot horrorslop game, then I realized that is much worse. I predict the worst part is we will get more pomniclones in 2025 and beyond.

>>239733 Most people who draw porn of characters like Pomni don't really care who it is, they see most recent popular character and draw the same body with identifiable head, clean it up and pass it off. Fat artists same way except we make them fat. Considering the creator is likely a tranny also and low poly ps1 slop is known to be their favourite, I am waiting for that callout myself.

>>239735 >mascot horror genre Christ you're right, this is the same style of factory slop that bendy & the ink machine started. >>239736 >Considering the creator is likely a tranny also and low poly ps1 slop is known to be their favourite, I am waiting for that callout myself News to me but far from surprising.

>>239743 Never been confirmed but the evidence is there. The creator is also known for a bizarre alt art account where they draw fetish art of drilling into people's heads. Which explains a lot, actually. I think the only mascot horror game thing I've ever liked was Baldi, everything else of a similar style was fucking garbage.

oh no bros, fapin is leaving ... AGAIN! let's see how long it lasts!

>>239646 I feel that every Lucy art is a commissions by a Lucyguy. Because Fairy tail have way more hot characters and if they want to do a Fairy tail art which would not be a commission it would probably be at least Erza art or any other character

>>239840 Suspiciously wealthy schizophreniacs are the bane of any art community. I seriously hope people tell him to fuck off at some point

>>239840 I can't write this off a schizo/hater post, just by perusing my followed artists feed and seeing retweets I can corroborate this. The comm whales/"assistants" in BWS's inner circle are prolific and at this point you can clearly trace that artists like rtil and RamenWithExtraPork are part of it/share those clients. >>239868 Unfortunately never gonna happen. That drblackjack guy has been feeding the artists in this community for over a decade to get his crackpot ideas out there, but you gotta consider that some of these other dudes aren't "suspiciously wealthy" and are willing to pay cornball amounts to take as much as they can.

>>239105 >> 239449 what kind of game would it be? with models that small, i could see a monster girl farming game where you feed them and then sell their eggs or milk or whatever, plus it could have a lot of story content without being just a VN

>>239723 Had contentfarm Satan not sunk his claws into the jester girl I feel as though she'd be better received from the outside. But even if Pomni wasn't the posterchild of new SpiderElsa slop she'd still be a shit candidate for this fetish when the ragdoll is right there

>>239747 >The creator is also known for a bizarre alt art account where they draw fetish art of drilling into people's heads. That's a joke Goose themselves made that people seem to have fallen for and spread around as gospel truth. The actual secret fetish alt is a lot more basic, if you've ever followed an artist like Daemonking and ComicalWeapon it's basically that output, a whole lot of inflation and slapstick/transformation junk.

Why is bamboo_ale no longer updating his art?

This is probably one of the worst faces I’ve seen in fat art. It looks like she’s drowning in her own neck and chin fat.

Did you guys see Asmongold reacted to the Marvel Rivals fat mod?

>>240216 Because he's a hasbeen who peaked more than half a decade ago and is stuck drawing melting clumps of butter forever.

>>240340 Almost as if this is the realistic consequences of drawing blobshit

>>239579 I don't know if it was last year but Spider Gwen and Kobeni are my personal pet peeves. >>239796 Wasn't he a Bluesky bandwagoner who was trying to get everyone to ditch Twitter and move over there? He'll be back in a month, two tops, but it'd be pretty funny if he convinced people to join just so he can quit. >>240216 Is his Patreon still charging people or is it on pause? I can understand if something serious came up but you'd think at the very least he'd let his paid supporters know what's up.

>>240340 Can we talk about jarring mange's ugly ass art, weird shapes, ugly faces this is the culmination of trying so desperately to be original

>>240340 this OC alone is worse than any FOTM trend or oversaturated anime girl everyone draws

>>239579 I was tired of seeing Brazilian Miku after like a day of it being a trend, people were acting like they'd never seen a woman who isn't white before

>>240422 I hated her because her entire existance is hypocritical, her becoming black is pure blackwashing, simple as. People have spent years normalizing white erasure, and HueHueHUE miku is just another attempt to erase white people and devalue us. If Miku was black and I made her white, I would have been raped off the internet for my crime in a week. But apparently it's okay to brown up a white girl, that's not blackwashing apparently.

>>240432 Face the wall, cracker.

>>240432 >Most pics who did it right gave her clear tan lines >Blackwash Detox for a bit, Anon.

>>240340 Why are they even creating this boring OCs? Every time it is a boring nobody girl

>>240442 >>240443 >(1)

>>240432 >white Miku is Japanese, sir

not schizo enough for the schizo thread apparently, so can anyone tell me what is appealing about this guy's art? stale poses, obviously traced models for the skinnies, and virtually zero depth with fat. smh

>>241311 No idea. But hair looks very flat while the body is like a traced doll with a static legs

>>241311 There's like, maybe 15 artists in the entire scene who net more than $1,000 a month. Asking what's appealing about non professionals doodling (and tracing) for fun is a trick question. Not much, unfortunately.

>>241311 surprising because liking marvel is schizophrenic

>I don't have the drive to draw, life sucks :( >one day later >I'm opening a Patreon!! :3

>>241311 I mean if you wanna get extra autistic about it, its not even weight gain but water based inflation. Round beach ball bellies with little to no gain in other areas is popular *for some reason*

>>241405 As an artist working towards being 1 of 16 making over $1000/month, any idea what makes those top artists so appealing? I mean, good art obviously, but there really does seem to be an X factor for the top people.

Appealing artstyles, name recognition, and if you believe the schizo thread, jewish influence.

>>241446 Drawing popular characters and appealing art style.

>>241446 If your art is not nearly as good as the competition, you can make up for it by making comics or sequences of popular characters, people eat that shit up even if it's not that good quality wise. Though i can't guarantee that it will bring you money, it will certainly put you on the map i think.

>>241446 >there really does seem to be an X factor for the top people. The grind. Pumping out content at a consistent pace. You don't even have to be a top tier artist to earn over 1k per month via comms if your output rate is decent. Look at someone like SkeleSoda - draws total slop, yet outearns plenty of artists above his skill level because he has gained a ton of visibility to his content by just keeping up a steady pace for years.

>>241512 Output frequency is the real $1mil answer. As anon said, even shitty artists can get the spotlight if they churn out art like a Chinese sweatshop. Combine quantity and (acceptable) quality and you get boosted even higher. If you ever wanted to "judge" an artist's quality compared to others, divide their follower count by the number of deviations they have

>>241446 There is no singular answer for that question as some artists make bank because they draw well, and then there's saxxon and theamericandream on the other end of the spectrum. Sometimes it really does boil down to chance and getting whales with terrible taste.

>>241526 No kidding I hate Debufucker but I can't deny he got bread, why the fuck he wants to brag about to a fucking porn board that pirate his shit he payed money for free is beyond my stupid brokie mind but here we are.

>>241446 The X Factors the top dogs have aren't easy to replicate. Let's review, oh great awaited artist number 16. Salt out skills everyone in fat drawing skill, no competition at all in the west there. Similar deal with SpellsX, they're obviously a full time industry manga artist who if you could compete with either in art quality, then you'll ascend to your much deserved throne rather quickly. Kipteitei is an immortal who has existed forever and along with Pixiveo can shamelessly drag and loop a comic story infinitely. Try as you might, you would never grip with the building up guilt of delivering a multi-year story that your fan base begs you to move on from. MetalForever is another immortal existing for so long in the scene that delivering bare minimum work is all it takes. There's plenty like this (Cookies-Cat, AmericanDream, etc oldies), but Metal is most notable as an artist by making the most money for doing the same old, ad infinitum. $4,000+, For that art. Kip and Pixiveo at least respectfully demolish Metal all day, everyday in every art metric. Not in dollars to work ratio. Metal shits all over them, at least 4 times to 1. The skill, time and effort composition isn't comparable in the least. And yet Pixi at $4,000 and Kip at $5,500 are racking their mind day in and day out on how to extend their comics. Respect Metal for how he achieves this. Dr. Worm and SteelyBird cater to sub-niche with heavy explicit stuff, vore, and just other grossness. I don't really get the appeal and I don't think most would, but they're fucking raking in the money. $10K club with Salt. Some of the shit they draw is so diabolical, you won't find any other artists willing to draw it for pay so makes sense they must net 100% of their niches paying customers. I'd bundle just about all the rest as artists grinding like crazy. SweetDreamCoffee, YummySinpie, Belt-Buster, SuperSnackSized, ChubbyMuffinUwU is good examples of artists pushing out insane amounts of content, aggressively advertising it, running recognizable OC comic series, and I'd bet most are working 80 hours weeks, easily. 2, 3, 4 pages of color comics are coming out of these guys a week. They're all around 5 years or less in career, all north of $2,000 or more. Is $2,000 a month for 80 hours weeks worth it? Fuck no, but they're grinding. These artists don't take breaks. They don't get depressed and saunter off. Day in, day out, they're producing content because content is king. Their graphs are ever so slowly going up due to their hard work, respect. So that's what you're looking at here. Do lackluster work forever and slowly get somewhere maybe. Maybe not. Do something radically different that hopefully you can even stomech drawing. Or grind like fucking crazy. Look at ChubbyMuffinUwU's art. I didn't list them because they're good, I listed them because they're successful, somehow. Overly shiny human looking-ish fat girls is the name of their game and boy does he fucking deliver it. Every day of the week, just about. And you'd better fucking respect it. It's a rubric for success, where the effort to skill ratio is so God damned lob sided it hurts. Blessed with the work ethic of a racehorse, and the art talent of a kid with crayons at a restaurant. They're improving since the last time I looked but I'm going to shit on them forever until they stop with the shiny style. And then check out the many artists who aren't in the amazing semi-pro $1000/month club. Look at MaxFullbody - that dude oozes care for his work. He's got good and unique style, skill, writing lengthy descriptions, he's responding to comments, he has popular IPs, he's following latest trendy shows, he's consistent, he has over arching story lines with fun dialogue and paneling like Log Myu going on, he's advertising works that are on his patreon, he's getting 2K+ favs, so many watchers. 4 years, $500/month ??? it's not working - it's not working - it's not working. There's something going wrong and it's not about skill, art, passion, hard work, IP, story. I'm sorry dude, you deserve better Max. So, so many more artist examples like poor Max. It's just the norm unless you can 4D chess the scene. Study all the top artists, dissect what works and what you can realistically achieve in content output. And then execute and grind with miticulous consistency and hope it goes well. Lastly, sure there are a ton more artists focused on commissions but I'm doubtful they're pulling down much. It's really not scalable. With hard work, and spending more than half of your time dealing in DMs instead of drawing, you need to be getting a $100 commission done at least every other day to get to $1,500 a month. I don't think any artist listed here at any quality is getting that many done. Most aren't even charging $100 for a piece. You probably won't even get a DM back confirming what you have to go back and change about the piece within 2 days to make just one client happy. So you have to juggle like 5 more clients at once just to keep a pipeline going. And you hope what the clients want will even get likes on socials. Good luck if you jump into commission hell, it's your sanity for dollars. Then you time how long a comm takes you and crunch the numbers to see an abysmal hourly rate for headaches. All in all, politely, and respectfully; consider all of this info. The odds are stacked against you, your paywalled content will be pirated on kemono instantly deleting your primary hook to attaining paying customers, and assuming your artwork is already very good, your time line to making it to just $1000 a month will still most likely be greater than a year of non-stop 40hrs+ weeks grinding. And maybe it just doesn't work out for no particular reason.

>>241588 I feel like Max's patreon doesn't offer nearly as much as others like Salt for example, the best you get is early access and voting and that's about it. It is a shame that he is not as successful as he deserves. And as someone who only works with commissions, i could never open a Patreon or similar service, there are times where i just don't find it in me to draw at all, and having the responsability to do it monthly would probably kill me with stress. Luckily for me, living in a third world country, getting just a few comms a month gives me a living wage.

>>241588 Great post. I can add that if they do art for money as any other business they are treat it as such. They don't cry on main, do blm acab posts on it and just doing art and advertisements. Like a Walter White if you want a money you are need to do shit properly

>>241617 Fuck I barely sleep today, I means don't do any bloggy shit on the art page like a blm acab shit etc. Also people like to see a sketches or art in progress.

>>241588 Wow this is an amazing deep dive, thanks for answering my question so thoroughly! Sounds like I'm in for quite the challenge, and maybe I'll have to look into more effective ways to advertise my wares since I don't exactly have time to put in 80+ hours on top of my day job. Either way, guess I should get my ass in gear and start drawing instead of browsing the forums!

>>238499 they'll never admit it but you're right

>>241622 Post one of your drawings

Are there any artist who don't deserve the love and yet rake a huge following and overprice commission. For example there anatomy of drawing is horrible, color and shading is shit,never improves there artstyle and yet get backing and support from better artist from trades and collaboration.

>>241636 Oh God, where to even start? Theamericandream is the first to spring to mind for me as his art is actual finger paint at this point, but others are the weirdly degenerate ones that don't actually draw human women anymore like solitaryscribbles, though I can't say he's anywhere near as popular as he used to be.

>>241636 Catboymech who start with a really good fanart and then fall into the shota and endless OC shit. She is a good artist but this themes is shit, both of them. Personally I find character hot because they are have a good story, good personality and it would be hot if they are ALSO being fat and you can imagine how it would change the plot. This OCs art for me is a dead weight and I just skip them and all her art is this OCs and shota and I don't know what else now

>>241632 This is my most popular one on Deviantart so far Also thanks everyone for your advice!

>>241617 For real. All we got is Kip rat politics as far as I know from the ones I listed. The no DA, Twitter and Tumblr only, comms only, the artist is the main character of the account instead of an artist as a provider of art irks me to no end. Fastest blocks ever, they aren't providing a service of fantasy WG art if personal politics will be included on the menu. Whatever their politics is, why cut their fan base in half sharing it. It's just going to upset half the people who could enjoy your art and pay you. Dumb, dumb, dumb. >>241636 Instant-Girl to date still has the most insane patreon income chart ever. Popped off with a couple initial drawings and instantly hit the $1000/month club in 2021 briefly. Their output is 1, rarely 2 posts a month tops, still. Sometimes 0 total AFK mode. Their subscribers dropped off very slowly and still they're sitting at $600/month for 1 piece a month. By all means, they are the highest paid artist within the entire scene on a per work or per hour scale. Not even Metal can touch them on effort ratio. Doesn't make any sense, Max is weeping looking at AFK success here. >>241622 >>241699 I failed to scare you off? Damn. I flipped through your page. The piece you provided definitely stands out as your best so far. But also it's the most anime-style one so it has built in appeal. Anime style is a cheat code: generic, safe, and so much easier than making appealing western style art. Some tips: - Stop posting with white background. It is like an instant 30 point deduction. It looks empty and incomplete. Look at Salt's pin-ups, he's the best in the biz at them. He does nearly canvas filling squares often for pieces that'd otherwise be white empty background. Fills with a gradient, a pattern, adds a noise filter sometimes. 1-click in photoshop and a little applied color theory gives the piece some extra depth and completes the canvas. - The comms are kinda priced high. If you're getting how many you want at those prices, keep them. But if you want more comms then the logic is subscriber focused artists actually charge lower to subsidize the work that is then posted to patreon, socials, etc to net you more money later on in subs. Infinite wheel if it works right. - Good job on the comics. Don't let me step on your creative vibe, but I'd tighten up your comic format. Look at someone else's comic like Kip's to get an idea. They pick 1 resolution and use a tall aspect ratio. Minimal total margin on the sides. You want it to look good on a phone, pick your own format and stick to it. Then a user can just flip through your comic page by page without the zoom factor, centering, etc jumping every page. Hope the info can help and that you see the success you hope for. You already have your first few patrons so you're kicking ass already.

I genuinely want to know why the fuck new artists open a Patreon after they started to draw for like 4 or 5 months, shouldn't they build a large and loyal fanbase first?

>>241726 This might sound crazy but you can continue building an audience even after setting up a patreon Why is the concept of creators wanting to make money such a stick up in the ass of some people?

>>241727 I'm not against the idea of wanting to make money from art, you fucking moron. I just find it baffling that people waste no time in setting up a Patreon, Fanbox, Subscribestar, whatever they'll come up with. Unless someone has been drawing for the past year or so, I'll be highly suspicious and wonder if they can keep supplying art at a rapid pace to not make people unsubscribe

>>241731 So free content at least for a year, as 4-5 months is too little time? Is this cutoff point based on something? People enter the scene with varying degrees of skill levels and the rate at which artists build up a following is largely determined by the quality of their work.

>>241699 has anyone commissioned you? i gotta say $180 for a render of that quality is kind of insane.

>>241588 >>241722 You write good posts, but also give off the vibe of an artist who's gotten stuck in the particularly blackpilled phase of their art journey - obsessing over money and clout while seeking out the most extreme examples in the scene to compare themselves to. This mentality is guaranteed to trap a creative in misery, because no matter who they are, there's always going to be someone who performs better in some area. Breaking out of this cage just by trying to make numbers go up is largely futile. Since you kept mentioning maxfullbody as a golden example of an underrated artist, I went ahead to take a peek at their DA and this stuff just doesn't do it for me. Sure, plenty of their works appeal to my sense of aesthetics. Some of the clothing and props obviously had a lot of effort put into them, some of the backgrounds compliment the character nicely (though the photorealistic ones tend to do the opposite), poses and proportions are generally okay, some are really dynamic even etc. but many of the illustrations leave me feeling like the fatness is a bit of a secondary theme. I can't really put my finger on it. The general vibe I get is like I'm looking at character designs for some upcoming game with WG elements, where the character designs aren't the main attraction/material by themselves, but also the idea of how they'll interact and be interacted with in the game. I agree in the sentiment that there's potential here, and *something* just isn't working. But I think they can figure out that something eventually, with the work ethic on display here it's inevitable if they keep on experimenting. Some of their more recent pieces like pic related already seem like a step in the right direction, the dynamic composition here reminds me of JeetDoh's work.

>>241738 >clout What are you talking about? To be a successful artist is to conduct business and you'll never do that if you can't build popularity. That's where exposure comes in and it has nothing to do with clout, save that faggot shit for the youtubers trying to survive the fourth adpocalypse.

>>241722 Yeah sorry for not being scared off, but I'm too much of a gooner to quit now! You're definitely right about the white background though, I've been trying out doing some stuff with full backgrounds and colored squares already. Most of it just hasn't come out yet. As for the comic aspect ratio, turns out I had the wrong export settings in Clip Studio so it wasn't trimming the margins. I went back and updated all of the pages so far. Thanks for pointing that out! >>241736 I've had a couple people ask about comms, but I don't really want to be a commission artist right now. Figured if I set the price high enough I wouldn't get as many requests, and the ones I do get will be really worth it. Supply and demand etc. >>241726 I thought the same thing about Patreon until I started getting a lot of comments and DMs asking when I would open one, and that was only a few months into posting. The compromise I made with myself was that I wouldn't lock up any art for too long so that I can still use it to build an audience.

>>241446 Would like to add to the >>241588 anons post: From what I've seen some artists also circlejerk A LOT to spread their names around. For example: Look how many times Pixiveo has drawn Kips terrible OCs, They also both hate this site for calling out their bullshit and have bitched about it back when Twatter wasn't X, and quite telling that they both also do the "drag out a comic" grift. Yes I think they're both pieces of shit. TL;DR: Networking is important, and don't be stupid enough to shoot yourself in the foot by being an ungrateful asshole to your supporters like Kip was. >>241636 See the above. >>241670 Were they the ones that opened the floodgates on weightgaming adding male WG making it impossible to screen that shit out thus ending up with the site driving a good chunk of its population away due to not wanting to wade through it? Or am I thinking of someone else?

>>241777 Trips of truth, and the part about not being an ungrateful asshole to one's supports cannot be understated. Every artist is replaceable and the ones who think they're eternal fall the hardest--just look at where bamboo is now.

>>241726 You set the stage early for how this relationship is going to work. I provide you fat art, you provide me a minuscule fraction of a payment each month towards hopefully being able to eat. Besides, if someone wants to pay, don't stop them. Worst mistake any entrepreneur can do for something like digital tickets, donations, etc. Play with that instrument case open in front of you, not closed. Or the streamer advice of "stream like they are watching" while sitting at 0 viewers. You post to that patreon like it has somebody there at 0 patrons, for months. As >>241727 said, artists need to get paid or they go away. It's not wrong to scream to the world "I'm here to do work for you!" day 1 and hope someone will appreciate and pay you for the work. >>241731 You're not wrong that it can be a trust thing, but all the more reason to start now and not later. When you finally notice him and you see he's been doing it for 2 months, 5 months, 1 year, page 20, page 50, Feb's poll, June's poll... he'll have that much more trust. Maybe it was all posted to 0 subs, 5 subs, whatever but the creator would be "wearing the clothes for the job they want" all this time and awaiting and hoping payment. >>241738 Thanks, spot on analysis. Staring into the abyss for too long is definitely a trap, but never peering into it is its own trap as well. Maxfullbody is indeed a golden example, but not of an underrated artist. More an example of an under utilized artist, potential like you say. If they thought in the overly analytical, downer sort of ways I'm discussing I do think they could pivot to financially successful art very rapidly. Give the people what they want, as they voted on with their wallets. Aggressively study what is already known, take this deep dive into the charts and recognize and regurgitate the patterns as they most statistically align with success. Max's art resonates for me too but indeed, its formatting and focus isn't there yet. It does not have the needed hook to force a potential subscribers hand. He needs the board meeting every SaaS company has ever had - how do we leverage our free offerings to force a sale, what is the CTA, what is the real 'product'? I said it, the scary 'P word' in art. It's about making a product. Every creative in the room just fell to a knee, the pain of making creative arts into a business endeavor is an uncomfortable sin to commit. Max is on the road to most likely exit the scene sometime soon. If he even bothers to list his Patreon revenue on his taxes, soon the IRS will let him know his cost of doing business is not tax deductible because what he has isn't a business, it's a hobby. He's about to reach 5 years of not making a profit. The tax situation is mostly irrelevant but damn is it telling: You don't operate a business for 5 years losing money every single year. And we're all here looking at this same last 5 year timeline, with a list of creators outputting the same frequency, same effort, same skill, but with 3x, 5x, 10x results. That fucking sucks dude. I just really hate to see it, I've seen plenty of artists exit the scene exact same way. Like it's a big mystery why they had to go get a job. See everyone in the comments like "Wait, you'll still post, right?" They were putting in 40 hour weeks, for free. You flip through and can see, every week he's doing another big art piece with a shit-ton of dialogue, panels, it's all here man. That's essentially a Pixi Log Myu page. At least worth a Metal Forever stick-doodle sequence. I'm hopeful he does 'experiment' and finds that something in the end. >>241775 Sounds good bro, you're still just getting started. Look at this all and find your balance of providing the perfect intersection where your creativity can shine and its an appealing product that makes chart go up. It's absolutely a marathon and a grind at the same time. >>241777 Careful, our guest artist Mr. 97b89e is here and already has ear-wing girls all up in that gallery LOL Ofc Pixi draws Kip girls. Kip and Pixi are brothers in arms, even swore their brotherhood over a shared dish of rat meat! IYKYK The strategy isn't terrible, but at the same time unless you're a full time Kip fanart maker then it's really not great either. This might boost your free fans side doing other peoples OC's but it's just not the product you're offering so why would a customer subscribe based off of that? So then the hope is they see Kip via a name search, see you, like you so much, see your other work and then --- right there, a miracle has to happen to convert them into your fan instead of only being a Kip fan merely passing by. Then the miracle that is statistically on average 100 times less likely to occur than converting someone into a free fan, converting someone into a paying fan. Turn back in your textbook to the Instant-Girl chapter. Why are they even called Instant-Girl? Because they only ever drew their own --Girl--, and became an --Instant-- success. No, I'm fucking with you, but what's the coincidence the Instant success story would have Instant in their name? But look at that. They seriously only ever draw their OCs, and that's the product that made people a free fan, and a paying fan. What do I get if I pay to subscribe? Some months nothing, but when they do feel like posting, it's going to be exactly-fucking that, what you came here for in the first place. So in that sense, drawing a Kip girl is more or less just not even a good business decision. You want a mutually beneficial cross collab, that's the play. Not a desperate one way one off. Network some, see what's possible. Obviously Kip isn't even going to open your DMs. Network with some mid-tier (popularity) artists. Max? Maaaaaax, let me draw some of your Genshin Impact girls for you bro. Ba-dum-tshhh, that joke writes itself for anyone who doesn't appreciate OCs.

>>241777 Catboymech probably was a one who normalize spamming a male shit because her soyboy fallowers would eat anything (and remember her shitty anti loli and blm posts). They are would pretend to like her shota shit for... what? She would do endless shota shit then wow a one shitty woman OC. This is nothing worth to fallow. I fallowed her only when she constantly did a good characters like a Skullgirl and Madoka ones. It is a big market and I better would fallow literally anyone else. Difference is that by fallowing any other artist I would constantly get a good art and by fallowing her I would get maybe a one good art per few months and other one would be a shitty male or noname OC of her buttlickers. I respect the artists who would instead draw a waifu of the week because even if I don't like this specific character, it is done for a more people then donutsteel shit which is just a self serve. I commissioned artists with a good work ethics and who have a business approach

>>241726 >>241731 Ultimately it isn't going to hurt anybody with a Patreon being present and nobody is obligated to subscribe unless they find themselves wanting to. Some subscribers might get burned by jumping in too quickly with a new artist, but you can get burned subscribing to artists who have been around for damn near a decade too. >>241738 >but many of the illustrations leave me feeling like the fatness is a bit of a secondary theme Honestly I feel the same, despite me really appreciating the quality and care he puts into his work. His fat girls look incredibly natural, but in a way I think they lack a certain sensual/sexual overtone that really sells it. It's a problem I had with some of Jeetdoh's stuff back in the day too. Jeetdoh would whip up something genuinely impressive that was focused on a fat girl, but it's almost like it was too good for me to find it very hot. That said, I think some artists are just unlucky and that partly has to do with the masses generally having shit taste. Something-something Marvel movies something Taylor Swift Fortnite something etc-etc. >>241809 >Max is on the road to most likely exit the scene sometime soon. I do think he's severely underappreciated but I also think it's worth considering he might be doing this as a side-hustle. There are plenty of artists who treat their Patreon/Fanbox/etc as a tip jar where you get to see what they work on for fun. I know your points are more business-oriented because that's what anon was asking about specifically, but I also think it's important to remember that this doesn't have to be your sole source of income. A shitton of money would be nice, but personally, as an artist, I don't think it's something I'd trade my passion/freedom for.

>>241446 You might already know this, but it bears repeating that you should actually enjoy the process and the stuff you do. Drawing popular characters and chasing trends gets you popularity, taking commissions or doing Patreon gets you money, but none of that will really matter unless you have a way of keeping yourself sane. Chances are if you're really intending to go on the 1000+ Patreon income grind, you're going to be there for a long time- the only way to get there is to either pull 40 hour weeks and be on a constant grindset like Belt, or be a grandfathered-in veteran like Pixiveo, Kip, or Metalforever. Either way, it's going to be a marathon, not a sprint, so make sure you can actually stay the course.

>>241588 >Salt out skills everyone in fat drawing skill, no competition at all in the west there. SuperSnackSized, Pixiveo, RounderSofter, and even Belt Buster are all westerners that draw fat better than Salt does. Salt doesn't do textures as well as any of them can, nor on a consistent basis. Some of his girls look like they're made of plastic.

>>241777 >For example: Look how many times Pixiveo has drawn Kips terrible OCs. Pixiveo does Kips OCs from them being suggested, not on his own accord. Treats them better then Kip does too.

>>241827 Suggested and winning polls.

>>241825 >the only way to get there is to either pull 40 hour weeks and be on a constant grindset like Belt, or be a grandfathered-in veteran like Pixiveo, Kip, or Metalforever Belt is also a veteran, so is bws. There's a good chance that spending habits have significantly changed after coomer and zoomers replacing millennials as the largest adult cohort on the internet. There's a very real argument that patreon is no longer a sensible model for new artists.

>>241830 Being an artist is pretty difficult as is and from what I've experienced the fresh adult Gen Zers are not like millenials were. I've got a friend whos made fetish/niche art since we were in high school (not fat, he works in a different field), and he had made a lot of money on it. Not Salt tier or anything, but he made a living off it. I remember early 2017 when people would pop in and commission him on stream, chat, be friendly, etc and the numbers went up. This continued until about Covid, where things stagnated, and they pretty much have remained on a slow, gradual decline since. Pretty much all the people who still watch are the same that used to, and a lot of the older folk are going. If new people join, they tend to be older Gen Z at the latest. Patreon is going down to the point he's considering going back to doing generic art to earn cash back or go into another field of work. Gen Z, young ones anyway, just aren't interested in art. I genuinely want to know why. He actually pointed out something dark to me where he mentioned he just has to hold out till Gen Alpha grow up - with all the brainrot they've experienced, he thinks we'll get a "coomer rennisance". Half joking but also half serious.

>>241847 >Gen Z, young ones anyway, just aren't interested in art. I genuinely want to know why. Zoomers are dirt poor as a rule.

>>241870 Not any poorer than most millenials. The people who commsssioned art were a mix of abnout 20% rich tech worker and 80% barely scraping by mcdonalds workers. Gen Z are not that much poorer in comparison. I think it might also have to do with the fact the oldest of Gen Z will be about 23-25 right now, so those that have degrees or have been training as apprentices etc will just now be hitting the point of actually making any form of decent money from careers - My sister is in that camp and she's just now started to earn what I'd call an acceptable wage. In a few years time they'll have a bit more cash. 2017 mostly was older millenials who had a ton of free cash because they were a pretty mature generation by that point.

>>240559 Miku is a robot.

>>241871 >those that have degrees Are drowning in comically obscene amounts of student debt they will never pay off >have been training as apprentices Anon you know full well that zoomers are too autistic to work manual labor. I should know, I've had interns that didn't know the difference between AC and DC, much less how an engine runs. It sucks to admit it but the fatty sphere is going to enter an ice age for a long while where only those with disposable income are going to be making comms. Just imagine a world filled with more lucyguys from Salt's inner circle.

>>241881 There's retards in every generation. I don't think that Gen Z are THAT bad, and I know a fair few that do work - if they didn't, there'd be a fucking crisis blooming already. There's more competition yes, but the work is being filled. Then again I'm not from a retarded country like America, so that might also factor into it.

>>241588 >Similar deal with SpellsX, they're obviously a full time industry manga artist who if you could compete with either in art quality This seems incorrect. I vividly remember seeing people complain about their awkward use of JP SFX in Teach Me Please when it first came out. Very try-hard in ways not comparable to bws' comics.

>>241847 >with all the brainrot they've experienced, he thinks we'll get a "coomer rennisance". Half joking but also half serious. Very optimistic take when we're already seeing this play out and it fucking sucks because it's all just brain damaged child-like "but what if she was a sumo blueberry with huge lips and drooping toe fat" garbage.

>>241830 >>241847 I have to wonder what else could possibly be done that checks the boxes of >it's something consumers actually want and are willing to spend money on >it has a decent cost-to-effort ratio >it can compete with pirates Maybe just trying to "make it" as an artist is, in itself, kind of a crapshoot because the deck is stacked against you and your paycheck is ultimately determined by the wallets of thousands of fickle people.

Been noticing an upswing of fat artists deciding to post IRL belly pics of themselves and weirdly personal "God I wish that were me" fetish fantasies.

>>241917 Porn damages you and this is the inevitable conclusion.

>>241917 Difficult to snag a feedee baddie if you have not, to some extent, experimented with feedism yourself. That may compel you to question your sexuality or god-forbid your gender identity a little bit, but that's life, anon. If anything we'll probably get a small uptick in mutual gaining/pov wg story scenarios, which I'd be happy to see. Something more for the FFA side of this sphere.

>>241917 As long as it doesn't make them troon out I tend to just ignore it

>>241917 I don't mind when it's actual women like Moemoechub

>>241933 These people aren't getting "baddies," they're just in the terminal stages of porn addiction, like you.

>>241847 >He actually pointed out something dark to me where he mentioned he just has to hold out till Gen Alpha grow up - with all the brainrot they've experienced, he thinks we'll get a "coomer rennisance". Half joking but also half serious. Late zoomers and Gen Alpha hate porn as a rule. I don't think they're as asexual as a lot of people on the internet claim, but generally they see most expressions of sexuality on the internet as fundamentally predatory and avoid it, or at the very least they avoid broadcasting their sexuality or talking to others about it, which seems to be a particularly millennial/early zoomer obsession. It's probably too early to tell, but I have a feeling that your creep of a friend is wrong.

Sorry, Shiro. But I have forgone the rider war...for the holy book of Jesus Christ. You can keep your shiny rider deck.

>>241826 >SuperSnackSized >better than Salt >Salt doesn't do textures as well >Some of bws girls look like they're made of plastic Every girl that SSS draws looks plastic and coated with soap though

>>241826 Salt is also much better at perspectives, anatomy and backgrounds. Also I'd only bring up Belt from that list, no idea why you even mention Pixiveo or the others. Belt however makes some great bangers but he's also very inconsistent, especially with anatomy so he has a lot of wonky pieces (he also draws guys so eeehhhhh)

>>241995 It is kind of interesting how zoomers/alphas are like that nowadays. It's probably just a massive overcorrection from previous well-documented cases of groomers manipulating kids. Most spaces dedicated for kids (online or offline) have either shut down or, due to their family-friendly nature, got infested with creepy adults. And especially post-Covid more kids are terminally online than ever. So that's why they inevitably end up on Twitter or similar places that aren't meant for them and start throwing fits when any sort of vaguely sexual thing gets brought up.

>>241995 I don't really believe the idea that Gen Alpha/Late Z are overwhelmingly porn averse. I think we're seeing the start of an era of less acceptance of porn, but in my experience this is a trend among older Gen Z, and not so much mid to younger Gen Z, who are either not over or just at 18. Older Gen Z absolutely, I've seen those numbers fall, but I call it far too early to call mid Gen Z or Alpha - nobody from alpha is even 18 yet and they haven't had a chance to enter (legal) NSFW communities yet en masse. If there is one thing that's changing things it's probably the loneliness epidemic and the fallout of that. Gen Z seems to have fallen into a gender divide quite hard, and when you're a male victim of the loneliness crisis, you have 2 choices realistically - Either become a gooner or swear off women and porn and become a never gooner. I think the younger Gen Alpha are a worry though. There's entire rabbit holes of weird sexual content designed to be explicitly shown to childen, and I have a lot of fear when these kids reach adulthood in 10 years time what they'll be like

>>242025 >I have a lot of fear when these kids reach adulthood in 10 years time what they'll be like Facemask fetish stocks going up in the near future

>>241588 Extremely good post, that's why I check in on this thread for >Belt Buster I still don't know how he has the sheer level of output he does, he might be the hardest working artist in the scene as far as I'm concerned

>>242016 Salt is very inconsistent with his backgrounds, and while his perspectives are varied, they often don't complement the body type of who he draws in favor trying too hard to be dynamic. >no idea why you even mention Pixiveo or the others. Why do you think Pixiveo and the others are beneath Salt? You mentioned Belt, but you didn't talk about the others.

Tranny try not to talk to and enable minors challenge impossible It's all "18 plus only!!!" until a minor makes a fetish amv of you which validates your gender identity. Krab, you are not a "BBW model". You are a 27 year old male with mental issues and watched so much porn it negatively impacted your self perception.

>>242177 >Open tweet on xcancel >Scroll through all the replies >No one's pointing out the fan cam creator's age or calling out Krabopolis for accepting a sexual video from a minor what the fuck man

>>242177 If I had a nickle for every popular tranny artist who did weird shit with minors without getting called on it I'd have so many nickles, good god this is bleak.

>>242177 Fifty bucks says he looks just like gollygeo, and by that I mean he looks exactly like chris chan with a clown wig.

>>241826 This has gotta be a joke. I don't mind any of these artists but they're practically incomparable in almost every department.

>>236287 Sauce on that third one?

>>241994 You can keep projecting if that makes you comfortable; it won't make you any less full of shit, though.

>>242177 Went on their twitter out of morbid curiosity and I get serious Gollygeo vibes. Tranny thats overly loud and obsessed with lesbians and being gay and constantly posting HAES shit. Also a pedo. I try my best to be paitent with people but trannies frequently test that paitence

>>242213 You make it sound like they're barely passable, and not just beneath BWS. Care to explain why?

>>242177 This is insane how many underage shits are always trying to fallow me. Good thing that they are writing they age so I can easy block them. Fucking parents doing literally nothing as a parents and this fetish or nsfw acceptance autism gone too far

>>240398 More than 200 paying subscribers after three months without any updates

>>241826 belt buster only one on this list better than salt

>>242016 >>242213 Days later, and still no explanation on why these two think Pixiveo and Roundersofter are lower then Salt after being asked.

>>242572 I don't get why you really need people to explain this to you

>>242585 This sounds like "I'm too retarded to explain why". Explain it or you're fucking wrong.

>>242177 I know for a fact half this site doesn't care a minor is involved in anything pornographic unless it's a chance to own a tranny.

>>242591 And that same half of the site will defend child porn with their dying breath, because it's "just a drawing"

>>242591 Hey, I don't dictate the patterns, I just notice them when they happen. This, Kafe liking belly pics from underage teens, and a couple other instances, its hard to deny. And I mean, so many people in the community have become trans that the likelihood of the ones that "unintentionally" do ped shit are trans is quite high. >>242593 Us "It's just a drawing" guys are the bane of the internet. Hated by puritans because "lolicon is a gateway to pedophilia". "Chad Pedopilled" freaks from places like allthefallen users call us "redditors" because apparently separating fiction from reality is "pussy shit" and "we should learn to try the real thing". We live in a society.

>>242597 You live in a society? I think you should live in a gulag. I do agree trannies are predisposed to this kinda shit but I also know nobody cares about minors and only does because they get to roast the tranny.

y'all ever wonder what happened to that mid fa artist who made a piece just before the election that was basically a stealth advertisement to vote for harris? the shitstorm it caused on da was hilarious to me ngl

>>242597 Damn bro, that's a lot of words just to say "I proudly fap to children"

>>242602 You know we have a schizo thread now? Maybe go there, or take your meds.

>>242615 >being against pedophilia is schizophrenic Perhaps you are the schizo

>>242615 Same bullshit. This will be merged with it after this one

Hey lads, what are your go-to websites for fat art these days? DeviantArt is either circletool art or AI art these days, I use X/twitter but trying to go through my own likes to find things is a life sucking nightmare.

>>242626 Deviantart and Bluesky. Deviantart gives you the tools needed to mute AI posts and block AI artists, so the people who have a problem with it are being lazy. The people who complain about it have no one to blame but themselves for not doing anything with their settings. Takes like 10 minutes or less depending on how many tags you mute.

>>242622 Thinking a drawing is a real person is schizophrenia

>>242622 If you're going to excavate an ancient meme then at least be clever about you histrionic ffffffffffaggot

>>242623 No! I don't want that!

>>242626 I just fallow artists on twitter. Sadly even with a right tags and no AI deviantart show me endless Ai slops.

>>242728 >Sadly even with a right tags and no AI deviantart show me endless Ai slops Then block the AI posters themselves.

>>242736 Every time I wanted to find a new bbw art it is mostly Ai or circle shit, page after page. So fuck it I don't know how much free time anyone should have to search new artists on DA. Probably a Twitter reposts from a good artists is the only way to search new bbw art. I miss a time when I can just search art on DA by just monitoring likes of a good artists.

>>242736 This only works to a certain point, DA has a block limit of I think 200 people before you aren't allowed to block any more. I found that out last year when I used the block list to try to get rid of basically any user I didn't want to see, like foot fetish pics and the people who flood DA with low-effort copy-paste "memes" like "What if [insert character] got tickled by [insert some other character]" that clog up search results instead of actual art.

>>242772 Sad shit about it that I used DA to fallow a great artists, many of them was from game and cinema industry. In around 2007 I found a lot of them just by looking at they favs. And they are actually talk with each other and regular people and upload sketches and processes. I just fucking can't handle a current husk of DA. I still upload art just as an archive but nothing more. Artstation is nothing close to the old DA because it's a pure corporate product just for a job searching and for a portfolio. And nothing in between now. A fucking dead and stinky DA and a cold portfolio Artstation. Twitter just for advertising and commissions. I miss old DA because obviously as a many artists I had a non fetish acc.

I honestly find it very frightening that Twitter is the leading source so far. It literally takes an hour to scroll through a few liked posts. Fuck this doom scrolling culture.

>>242785 Its beyond me whats stopping Twitter and Bluesky from implementing a simple gallery feature that allows you to properly search for posts by name or filter through upload date and whatnot. Just scrolling the media tab by recency already sucks enough but then you also gotta account for artists posting reaction images and stuff.

>>242758 You keep an eye on people who retweets a lot of fat art; if you follow the artists themselves, you're more than likely to just get that artist and nothing else. >>242794 Twitter is still trying to be profitable and Bluesky is too busy deleting all the CP that came with the flood of woke and are probably trying to keep their expenses low to try and stick around.

>>242615 Sorry, "I don't think kids are sexy" isn't a schizophrenic take

>>242772 Well it's been working for me. I mute AI tags, and any AI poster that doesn't use any of the tags I muted gets blocked. Same goes for stuff like vore, pregnancy, inflation, male weight gain, etc. That's why I'm thinking it's people not trying hard enough.

>>242794 Twitter does have an advanced search feature that lets you do more precise searching, but it's so out-of-the way and has such mediocre UX it's debatable if it's worth using. I just don't think Twitter was even meant to be an art site in the first place, it just became the best one because it has relatively lax content restrictions, decent filtering, and a large userbase, whereas most platforms don't even really have two of those

>>235655 A loving fat gf being fattened by her bf is the hottest shit, especially if she's fat to the level of having trouble getting around. Not immobile though, that's just boring

>>242857 also belly button fucking is based

I have a serious question. What you all think, does this bluesky migration work? Anyone here did this gumb bluesky acc to fallow artists? You can miss new Cakehoarder shota art if you not done it yet!

>>242866 I've stopped caring about Western fat artists for the Japanese and even them being idiots and jumping site because of AI, can't make me jump over to that site. Right now I'm just waiting for a middle man like Nitter, to get put out.

>>242866 I don't really hate Bluesky on principle or anything and wouldn't really mind a site that isn't run by South African Wheatley, but with any kind of migration effort it inevitably leads to really annoying fracturing in the community. It'd be a lot less painful if it was like Discord, where it was basically superior to all its alternatives in every single metric (at the time), but even nowadays there's really only nebulous benefits for any layperson to go to Bluesky. There is one interesting feature (the feeds thing, which is basically a super-buffed version of Twitter's Lists that lets you make curated feeds) but it doesn't really have anything that overcomes the opportunity cost of not being on Twitter. As for artists migrating, it's whatever. I guess it's because I don't really scroll through twitter all that much to begin with? I only really get upset if they pull a Fapin and nuke their entire twitter before leaving

>>242885 >It'd be a lot less painful if it was like Discord, where it was basically superior to all its alternatives in every single metric (at the time), but even nowadays there's really only nebulous benefits for any layperson to go to Bluesky

>>242891 Well yeah Discord rapidly enshittified itself in recent years, but how many people do you know are using Skype and Teamspeak today?

God can I say I hate debulover but trolling him is kinda fun.

>>242892 NTA but I don't care much for VOIP and so the only appeal of Discord for someone like me stems from the fact I have to use it since it has otherwise the eroded online forum culture from my youth and contributed to the enclosing of the commons. In this sense, making the switch to Bluesky was incredibly easy. You don't even have to do it, but most artists are too fucking lazy to purchase their own domain names is really telling.

>>242964 Did he go in his autogynephilic fantasies again? Because holy shit that guy is a peak subject of being terminal online.

>>236187 I actually agree with this. I hate how the two of them coming together resulted in both Lewdoodle’s and Geo’s content going to shit.

>>237481 These are so traced, like wow it’s pretty blatant how traced it is.

>>235938 >Contrast is a good one that a lot of people attempt, but I rarely see it truly done THAT well. A lot of this is because this trope is often implemented to compare one fat chick to an even fatter chick. Problem is, it can be very easy to undermine just how fat the smaller fat chick is to a regular person, so the true effectiveness of the contrast becomes a little lost. It's best when there's 3 girls. A thin one, a fat one, and a very fat one. The main problem is that 3 characters for one image is expensive to do, so it's understandably rare for commissioners to do them.

>>239932 I hate DrBlackJack and his ideas are fucking disgusting and disturbing. I hate him.

>>240432 You’re a retard.

>>242975 Not yet but he is bragging again so you know he will get to throwing a fit every time someone even mentions him especiallywhen it come to him buying all the sax and fatlover slots. Seriously what is his problem homie spends like hundreds a month on gooner porn and loves to brag to people who pirate it. It's shit too you can tell it's rushed.

>>242975 Also I didn't know he was autogynephilic explains the huge ego. And the self glazing

>>241526 Well saxxon also has debulover as his top gooner. He makes thousands a year just on him.

So who is a current lolcows of a bbw artists? I remember Cozynakovich but now idea how he is now because this is too autism if even for me

>>242885 >but it doesn't really have anything that overcomes the opportunity cost of not being on Twitter. What fucking opportunity costs? Twitter is so swamped with bots, ragebait, and AI garbage that it's near impossible to get actual human eyes to look at your art. Big number of likes means dick all when a good 70 percent of likes on any given post are just fucking bots. At least with Bluesky, for all of its issues, allows actual people to find your shit without the wildly inflated numbers. Twitter is an active detriment to artists.

>>243068 Who the hell cares, what kind of loser goes out of their way to look for lolcows?

The faggot is back, just as expected from a retarded like him. Guess Xitter isn't that bad now is it, I knew it was performative and that the second he doesn't get his asshole licked by his fans he would start posting again.

>>243094 The account is still privated, so I don't see how that counts as being "back".

>>243096 He's posting on his Twitter again after doing this whole song-and-dance about moving to BlueSky and getting pissy over people saying "Hey maybe don't deactivate your Twitter in case you change your mind and so someone doesn't take your handle".

Don't know where else to ask this, but eh, anybody know how to view archived twitter posts that are age restricted? Managed to find links to pics that I didn't save in time, and they were thankfully archived, but they're age restricted. I know that for places like old archived deviantart uploads you can cheekily scoot by age restriction with inspect element n all that, so I'm curious if there's a similar trick like that for twitter archives. If anyone has any clue on if theres a way to cheat the system, then cheers

>>243094 Fallenchungus vibes.

>>243096 Didn't he delete all his drawings on Twitter and make a whole drama about it before privating though? Honestly if you're actually serious about the whole thing at least have the decency of deleting your account like some artists actually did, this is also after the whole "Elon nazi salute" deal which makes it seem even more retarded

They legitimately just traced someone else work. There in so many discord servers,start spreading them out to get them banned

>>235696 If you feel the need to defend loli while noone is asking you to just kill yourself at that point, like you're just a pedophile with extra steps

Y'all wanna laugh? https://bsky.app/profile/101alien01.bsky.social/post/3lh2p2arkek2y https://x.com/101Alien01/status/1885673757458456888

>>243145 Damn I thought I knew all the ana drama, holy shit. I knew they were a total ass-clown for a while but I didn't think that the list of nonsense was this long.

>>243145 TFW you see fag on fag violence getting out of hand, but not out of hand enough. Where's the point in their stupid feud that they both accidentally let something slip about themselves that leaves them with no other option but to disappear from the internet?

>>243110 Yeah these faggots come from FallenChungus' family tree of clout chasing cocksuckers.

>>243145 woah, discord smash drama, is that really the best opener for the thread? i lost interest instantly.

>>243101 He made a single shitpost and then dipped not long after. He even made a follow up post about how at most he's just reposting shit for his friends. You're making a mountain out of a molehill here.

>>243162 Christ this guy cannot make up his mind like a woman.

>>243145 I'm not familiar with either party of this, Anyone got a tl;dr for this edition of nigger faggot tranny whining?

>>243162 >Guys listen to me. I'm not coming back >Seriously, I'm not coming back >I'll use this account to post a shitpost, but it doesn't mean anything really >Okay I'm reposting some stuff here, but I'm really not coming back >Guys believe me when I say this What's the point of even doing this if his friends could just make an account on bluesky and do it there? If he's not going to return then just nuke the account already and be done with twitter as a whole

>>243162 I didn't even bring it up initially, but you inquired, I answered. I was also under the impression that he fully deleted/deactivated his Twitter this time, but I guess I was wrong. Also it's not much of a "dip" if he's saying in the screenshot you provided that he'll repost important things now and then.

>>243162 Why repost on the site that uses his work to train the AI and it's owned by a nazi? What was even the point of deleting everything and leaving? >>243246 Anastimafilia is a turbo autist chuddie but everyone knew about that beforehand

>>243297 >owned by a nazi Elon's a retard, but he isn't a nazi. >chuddie You're also a retard.

>>243300 >elon isn’t a nazi The only retard here is you if you genuinely believe that.

>>243310 Elon is MAGA, and the MAGA constituent of the Republican part is not remotely comparable to the German Nazi party. The Nazis practiced race supremacy and were openly antisemitic, MAGA's neither of these things. Am I saying MAGA is good? No, but I don't think you should be lying about them to get easy owns. It's incredibly dumb.

>>243311 I think a majority of Maga supporters do believe in racial supremacy though.

>>243311 My guy, he literally did a nazi salute. You’re retarded.

>>243315 How do you know? Do an overwhelming amount of MAGA supporters believe one skin color is superior to another? I don't think you can assess shit like this unless you're some poli sci giving these people surveys about their views. >>243318 Roman salute=/= Nazi salute Just because it was adopted by the German Nazis, doesn't mean it's solely owned by the Nazis. Is antisemitism exclusive to the Nazis? Are Islamic Jihadi terrorist orgs Nazis too or has "Nazi" become a broad umbrella term not unlike how "trans" is used now too?

>>243323 The entire MO of the alt right is that they are superior to blacks and other races. The whites in the group hate mexicans and want them alld Deported. When Trump says shit like "DEI caused the plane crash" what he really means (and what Maga people interpret it as) is "Fucking niggers, right? Get them to fuck." Regardless of what Musk's actual intentions were with his salute, the favt he doubled down afterwards is proof enough of his character. Musk is a literal troll who only cars about raping the poor and owning the libs. He would absolutely do a nazi salute just to piss people off. "Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words."

I bet that when chainsaw man movie come out here would be as much Reze as this Squirrel girl

>>243323 You aren't getting payed to suck their dicks, try thinking for yourself for once

>>243145 This is like the dumbest drama thread I've ever read. The poster grabbed defeat from the jaws of victory. Post the screencaps of them dropping the hard N bomb and the anti-gay sentiments and be done with it. Ana would suffer some real damage maybe if they had a lot of paying subs to lose. Instead, OP muddled the message as much as possible by inserting themselves who, seriously they sound so fucking exhausting they should be banned from patreons' and shit. Ana's drama is dumb but discord nonsense and strong derogatory remarks are a completely different category. Another lesson for artists to post art, interact positively related to their art, and otherwise be quiet. WTF is all that crap in those pics. Keep the mlg pro gamer takes to yourself. >>243246 TLDR Ana literally cannot shutup and wants to mix spicy gamer takes into their 'business' >>243129 That's crazy, advanced art work theft.

>>243326 >The entire MO of the alt right is that they are superior to blacks and other races. The alt-right hasn't been relevant since 2017. Richard Spencer has been a literal who for years and only gets mentioned because he claimed to support Joe Biden over some retarded Israel shit. >The whites in the group hate mexicans and want them alld Deported. That could be true of some, but I think most of the MAGA base just doesn't like illegal immigrants. >When Trump says shit like "DEI caused the plane crash" what he really means (and what Maga people interpret it as) is "Fucking niggers, right? Get them to fuck." How the fuck did you infer that from Trump's schizo babbling? The man's crazy, but I don't think he's dogwhistling about hating black people. >Musk is a literal troll who only cars about raping the poor and owning the libs. I agree with you 100% on this. A lot of MAGA's positions are entirely knee-jerk and Musk really is no different with his actions or positions. >He would absolutely do a nazi salute just to piss people off. Musk's salute still wasn't invoking the Nazis, though. >>243336 MAGA paying some random lib fatfag to debate a few lefty fatfags on bbw-chan would be fucking hilarious. >try thinking for yourself for once no u lol

>>243352 I honestly cannot tell if it was or not, but considering his response and history, I fully believe he knew what he was doing (making it just unambiguous enough). Not that it really matters, what is anyone gonna do? Hold him accountable?

>>243272 It's all in the name of attention. He's been doing this since he was first going by capnfapin and it'll probably never end until he finally decides one day to just cut his online presence.

>>243311 >The Nazis practiced race supremacy and were openly antisemitic You forgot that they were also socialists. >>243318 If having your hand raised meant you did a Nazi salute, so many politicians against him that you'd ass lick,would be in the same group. I don't even know why they even tried to make it out to be that when everyone and their grandparents have gotten WWII constantly thrown in their face nonstop, for decades. and should be able to spot the difference between that and borderline flailing.

I have a question for people from USA. Do you have a lot of 24/7 shops? I fucking hate how I do have one near me but. Ok it is a 24/7 and then oh it is closed because some holiday then because it is a fucking night of the last day of the week. Fuck it

>>243323 >Roman salute =/= Nazi salute Next you'll say the skinhead with a funny pinwheel tattoo is just a Buddhist, lol. >>243389 There's a lot of "freeze-frame while they wave and it looks like a Nazi salute!!" shite out there, and both sides do it, but let's not pretend what Musk did doesn't resemble one(especially the second salute), even if it wasn't meant to be

>>243389 > You forgot that they were also socialists. You forgot you’re a fucking retard. Read a book you inbred shittard (https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialists). Bet this waste of genetic material is 5’9” tops and obese.

>>243323 i just want you to know that the rest of the world thinks you're stupid.

>>243326 Bro, we already have a schizo thread

>>243406 >let's not pretend what Musk did doesn't resemble one(especially the second salute) Neither does; without a strong stance and straight arm, it just looks like flailing, to me.

>>243323 >>243416 >>243416 >the guy who openly supports nazi propaganda and ensures they get top priority on his own damn website isn't a nazi! It wasnt a salute, honest! >oh but he did the salute poorly, that means he didn't intend to do it Burn in hell, you gaslighting shitstick. Literally no one is falling for this shit, especially now that he's literally robbing the country blind.

>>243418 Stop being a faggot and post more gossip about fatty artists being retarded.

Go back to the Schizo thread. We're here to talk discuss overly specific things about fictional fat chicks. Not a Trump knob gobbling thread number 700000

>>243457 I agree with it. Probably Cakehoarder would return to Twitter if it was no commissioners on bluesky. But bluesky is gay af and she draw a shota shit so maybe she would have even more commissioners. Who knows.

>>243492 I never saw the appeal in cakehoarder's work, she always reeked of that faux-SFW style the creepiest fujoshits go for.

>>243351 Hi there, I'm the guy who made the post on Bluesky and Twitter. Thanks for the criticism about how I should have made the threads! Though, I wanna clear something: >>Ana would suffer some real damage maybe if they had a lot of paying subs to lose. The purpose of that thread is not to make Ana lose money, nor to cancel him. I've only made those threads as warning signs to tell people that Ana is a toxic artist that does not take it well when you have a different opinion than him. People are still allowed to sub to his Patreon, because I do not believe they hold or share his opinions. >>Instead, OP muddled the message as much as possible by inserting themselves who, seriously they sound so fucking exhausting they should be banned from patreons' and shit. I inserted myself into those threads because he believes I want to cancel him, which I'll stress multiple times, I don't fucking want to. I wanted people to understand that he's saying a lot of pretentious stuff, then Ana plays the victim card by saying that I'm demonizing him over "his opinions", which he flips flops around from being subjective to factual. Dude openly said that he avoids BBW-Chan because of me all because I chose to talk about him. The dude is scared of me, says that I'm causing pointless drama, but he refuses to talk to me or to DM me on Discord because he's either too afraid of me and/or of his audience turning against him, too prideful to admit that he's wrong on things when it's okay to be wrong, or he still genuinely believes he's in the right. At the end of the day, again, thank you for the feedback on how I should've done the threads, but my threads are not there cancel Ana, and I've inserted myself into it because I wanna point out all of his takes on games were all brought out by himself. Oh and Ana, if you just so happen to be here; DMs are still opened and don't be afraid of DMing me. If you want me to stop it, we can talk about it in the DMs. And no, I won't screenshare it, promise.

>>243637 Her start with a Skullgirls art was good. But I stop fallow her when she start to draw only this endless OC shit and then a males. I fallow artists because they are drawing a hot girls from anime or mange when they are have a story and personality and not a noname shit OC with no story. Maybe some people care about a character just because she looks hot but it is not enough for me.

>>243698 Shut up faggot, nobody cares about your little discord spat. Nobody is going to be cancelled over some basic bitch 4chan humor no matter how much you squeal. Watching you beg for someone's attention like this is one of the most embarrassing things I've seen on this site, and I've been around for the worst of POST WINS

>>243698 shut the fuck up snom. you have never failed not to insert yourself into drama where it doesn't involve you, try to get attention on your "side" of it, post your shitty chicken scratch on servers, and suck the cock of any big name artist near you to get their approval. you are the most embarrassing motherfucker involved in this kink on twitter, discord, whatever and that's saying something. stop sticking your nose in places it doesn't belong or it'll be cut off.

>>243926 You sound too invested to not explain what the fuck is going on. Spill the name and beans, faggot.

>>243937 Not that anon, but ana has been known to show up here from time to time so I don't doubt that some of the replies to that post are from ana themselves

>>243698 Either nut up and actually be dedicated to your problems with this guy or shut up and let other vultures try to go after canceling him, you fag. If your problem with a Twitter artist or someone popular on Twitter in general is that they don't take criticism well or are a hypocrite then you might as well go on a crusade to any other Twitter account with over 10k followers. Supporting your arguments with screenshots about him asking you to back off for being a stalker who can take a hint as well as a fish takes to dry land or "guys he doesn't like Steve in Smash or some indie game?" or some other two faced artist talking shit about him after a block for the same shallow reasons makes you look like the stupidest ratshit motherfucker alive, as if your MS Paint doodles didn't prove that already. We get it, you're one of those "people" that goes on about how much they don't like politics even though all they do is bitch about anything considered a right wing topic by "the grifters" that week (of course not considering any lefty grifters as that, just the right wing ones) who also hates loli but has no problem with anything else weird on Twitter, I found five people like that under a rock I turned over yesterday. You're not Dog the Bounty Hunter or Chris Hansen finding some criminal ring, you're a Twitter "artist" who jerks themselves off to how much they hate Elon even though you'll never really leave the site but even that couldn't raise awareness on the one thread you wanted to post as a moral outcry. Nobody cares, and you going to the one place where anyone is allowed to say whatever the fuck they want to capitalize on the attention your post got over trying to "educate" a guy because he says troon only shows how flimsy your actual morals are >>243926 >>243937 >>243942 I doubt it's actually him, but if it is really then all I have to say is don't listen to people like this. They don't care about any moral correction, they just want to control people and get what they want. Treating Ana as some sort of failing because he does the same thing I've seen twitter artist after twitter artist do over and over again just considered right wing is such a huge crock of shit. You're better off just cutting that retard off completely and not appealing to him or trying to come off as nice or neutral.

>>243698 Right, right. As politely as I can be, my advice to you is to realize you're not that important. I do it too, I want to talk about things from my personal point of view but then I'm swiftly reminded nobody gives a single shit about me. And the more 'me' I put into my argument, the less anyone cares about it. It's just not relevant to them. The people here care about fat girls and a list of about 15 artists. If you're not one of those... Yeah. So if you want likes, upvotes, people not to relentlessly shit on you - you present your argument in a way that engages the reader personally, not personally involve them with yourself having some problem. Make this ANA shitter their problem. You say Ana hates gays, non-whites, and is a filthy right winger? Boom, the entire fucking room hates this guy now for at least one of those reasons and it's their fucking problem to be angry about it. You tell us he doesn't like Minecraft? Yea me neither, you dork. He blocked you for being annoying? I would too dude, like honestly, to see him interacting at all with his fans and I'm liking him already. See? How counter productive was that, you wanted to drag this guy through the mud and somehow everyone here is mad at you. And this place tucking hates Ana! Maybe this too is a wonderful lesson for us all, the lesson of shutting up.

I saw this today and it pissed me off so might as well dump it here: I saw Buttery-Inkling refer to A from Future Redeemed as "nOnBiNaRy" despite the fact that she is a female, she's supposed to represent the anima side of Alvis (the unconsious image of a woman in a man's mind) I guess there's also that faggot DA commentor who insists on calling Yamato a pooner. I just want this gender retardation to end. I'm tired, boss.

>>243960 I’m sorry you’re just a queerphobe. Bet you’re too much of a coward to say this to him directly.

>>243406 >Next you'll say the skinhead with a funny pinwheel tattoo is just a Buddhist, lol. I would not, actually. A Neo-Nazi skinhead is not the same as a Buddhist monk. Context matters, and you are a fucking retard,

>>243966 Anon you're a retard, no one except for small children are afraid of faggots, everyone is disgusted by them

>>243890 >>243926 >>243953 >>243958 Thank you kindly for all for the criticism. I'll aknowledge it if I ever chose to redo the thread later in the future.

>>243960 Shit about Yamato is the worst because it is a story about how powerful and noble the will of Oden was. I feel bad for Oda because he is carefully constructed the narrative from the Yamato childhood and her fascination with a possible good future for Wano, and then some fags just see a booba pee pee gender autism. >>243953 The more I read about any drama the more I think that it is far more safe and reasanoble to just post fetish art without sharing any opinions. Look at any bbw artists who are avoid any drama. They are in a better place and able to get more commissions just by not acting more than a providers of fap mateial

>>243968 Context does matter, and the context for his salute is that he stopped talking, put his hand on his chest, and then raised it up, all fingers firmly together, in a sieg heil, twice, without ever saying "my heart goes out to you"

>>243966 Fags like you aren't welcome on imageboards, sweaty :)

Anyway we had a talk about morons, but which artists does have a spine and acting like a normal sane professionals who are don't do any virtue signal shit?