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>>113757 I'm sure in one of those timelines all the family started to gain weight after seeing Marci enjoying the food so much! It would be quite an interesting idea

It wouldn't post the pic when I posted this the first time

it's not uploading my picture. It's the recent fat lovers club with loona. I just want to know if anyone has the loona pics

Love this mini comic! I hope we see more in the future for their family

>>113929 I love the ara ara energy that Marci brings... While her thoughts tell us she's still hungry, lol.

Anyone have this one

>>114340 Strap in, this carries on on for a few more pages.

>>114342 Oh.. what joy.

>>114340 (fourth panel) "STERN" Wow, Jimmy sure must be serious this time. I guess he finally decided that he does not want to be a total cuck anymore. Hopefully Hetty just confesses the truth, quickly settles the drama involving Luke, and she and Jimmy get on with the plot.

>>114352 How very realistic

>>111248 Here you go.

>>114453 Is there one in better quality? This is so blurry.

>>114463 I got 'chu. No idea why the last one was so low rez for some reason.

>>114224 Just checking in since the set will be gone soon. Anyone?

>>114464 Thanks!

>>114748 I continue to feel iffy about people selling things made with AI

>>114748 this is so fucking lame. The fact that he's selling this for 15 bucks when he generated these for free with daily credits. Genuinely I don't know how he still has patreons that refuse to pirate when he's doing this

>>114770 It is completely fine to not like A.I., but don't make up lies. The daily limit for the site I use is 20 credits and they expire in 3 days, they are nowhere near enough to make these. I only use the daily credits to make the character roles, scenes, items and anything I am able as it is smarter to use them for that stuff.

>>114771 "Hey guys, what are you saying is bad because of me that I use credits for ai sloba because I only have a limit of 20 credits!". Fuck you Viro Veteruscy the only thing you've been doing lately is paid art, which has become your main content. IHH's comic book series has already been done a long time ago and now you are releasing an entire new series that will entice people to buy your subscription to patrion to see the sequel. You have already been given a ready-made basis for the Hetty vs Marci series, and here you just use a minimum of effort under the pretext of new content. And now you're trying to make even more money using AI as monetization. Fuck you Viro. At least close one of your comics first, not 200 years from now.

I hate AI, passionately. I don’t say that from a normie libshit perspective either. It fucking reeks of lazy dogshit. Work on the comics instead of procrastinating on them. Have a spine and maybe don’t use this existentially terrifying retarded Thiel brained circlejerk tool to get money. Your crap was already overpriced, the fact you’re getting visibly lazy on top of that is insulting.

>>114771 You're still trying to sell it even if you admit to it being AI. There's limits to how much honesty will let you get away with. If you want to do AI, you're better off making a different account entirely that focuses exclusively on AI instead of having it be with your primary account, and have all of it be free of charge. Though the best move would be to not use AI at all.

>>114799 So you're not going to address that the person in the previous comment was lying, alright. I've been working on the comics as I normally do. Sure, I agree that I'm spread out a bit thin among the other comics I'm doing and should probably focus more on one or two at a time. Can do that, just a matter of which one(s) gets the privilege or if I should just wait until the 2.5 chapters are done since they are shorter. I may leave it up to a vote soon. The A.I. set is not canon to Sable City and was made while experimenting with what I could get it to do as well as learn how to manipulate it more and what to avoid when giving directions. The results were put together for fun and since they were completely unrelated to what the featured character actually does, I decided to sell it since the content was made while making it very clear that it was A.I. no matter how obvious or not. I also made it clear that it was not replacing my normal stuff, but you know how people will still jump to conclusions no matter how blunt and direct you explain something. The point is that it is optional, if people don't want it then don't buy it. >>114800 You're gonna have to get specific on how it's lazy when it comes to me cause it has been quite the opposite. I am working on the comics. You'll have to explain the spine part and Theil brain thing cause idk what you're talking about, but again this A.I. set is optional like all my art sets are. The prices have been the same for years, some sets are actually cheaper overall. I take it you are referring to the bundles which actually save money if you do the math. Again, you'll have to clarify on what you mean by lazy, but I do agree that I should upload more, probably the lack of rest effecting things but I feel sleep cuts into my time to work on things. However if my output is still lacking then I'll have to make personal changes to help fix that. >>114805 The A.I. set being sold explained above. It's already treated as a separate thing.

I will say Viro, you are right about them lying, I do believe these take time and you are probably paying for the token, however I personally feel that the Ai thing is iffy, from the previous animations that were released it doesn't feel like something worth paying for on the kinky side (if this animation is anything like the other), in addition mixing AI with art is always going to feel awful to the community since this community is built on human made stuff, and both in this community and other art communities AI is always frowed and extremely hated upon because of its unethical training, so you shouldn't be surprised everyone is going to push back when you release something ai because even though its optional, to a lot of people it feels like a big "F*ck u" to most of the community, I don't think that is what you are trying to do. But that is how it feels, that's why there is so much backlash

>>114807 >The A.I. set being sold explained above. It's already treated as a separate thing. You either missed or ignored the part where I said "and have all of it be free of charge.". You shouldn't be trying to sell it period, regardless of whatever account or method it's done by.

Slight devil's advocate here, but it's worth noting that anyone who's already a pledged member and has access to the FLC content gets access to this new Sable City stuff as well. It's not purely a separate purchase like the Underground Collector sets, say. Just clarifying that point as it could be lost in the discourse.

>>114748 >>114771 >>114807 Come one Viroveteruscy, I thought that you were better than this. It was completely fine to experiment with A.I. for your Sable City serries, as you were posting that for free. It is also completely fine to charge whatever you want for access to the sets of your own genuine artwork (even if I and others feel that $15 for 2 images is overpriced). But putting A.I. generated content behind a paywall is a new low. If you were truly in need of quick money (in addition to whatever you normally make) there were many better ways to achieve it. How I see it, this just hurts your reputation as a paid artist. >>114816 That does help this art set's case, but I still think that it is greedy to paywall A.I content like this.

>>114748 >>114771 >>114807 imagine making a paywalled AI slop comic thinking goons will fork over the cash and not just immediately making free downloads on gofile, all while making the last of your fans feel disappointed in your lack of self awareness do better Viro.

I decided to give [A.I.] Tigress Bastet - Testing Grounds a shot and paid for it out of curiosity. I can confidently say that this is objectively dogshit and not worth your money. It features 3 short videos 1 is 1:30 minutes long 2 is 2 minutes long 3 is the longest. 6 minutes. There's no story that connects to any of them. It just features the same character in different scenarios. Aside from it obviously looking weird at times due to it being AI, the tiger character sometimes looks like her fur is actually a reptile texture for some reason. This is especially noticable when she gains weight. Anyway if it isn't obvious enough don't waste your money. I paid for it, so you didn't have to! That aside, Its really sad to see viro go down the route that he has with his art. I used to be a big fan of his work. Even after he changed the style in which he drew his fat character (a style I personally didn't like) I still respected him since his art was great. This AI shit however, has turned him into something else. Something I can't get behind.

>>114834 Look, I get your point, but Viro just wanted to try something new—aside from creating his art. Besides, I don’t see anything wrong with Viro making a video using AI; after all, anyone could make a video with AI

>>114834 It's a damn shame, they rose up pretty fast to take over in the rift of FAF being a total douche nozzle about his work. IHHAT felt like that, anyway. Now they've sort of become the same guy. Keeping everything behind a paywall, actively monitoring threads like these just to pick arguments, updating several comics running at the same time with trickle content. It's a mess. Now this AI shit, why even bother? After improving their art over the years, just feeding it to the machine. Disgusting.

Alright, I will say this again. The A.I. set was made with me experimenting with the A.I. to see how I could manipulate it to do various things that I could use in Sable City. The videos were pieced together to make shorts, they were not originally intended for this. They were not intended to be used anywhere which is why I turned it into a set and even clarified that the set was made with this intention and completely optional. They were put up for sale and in the Fat Lovers Club tier because they were not important, just like all my other paid content. Sable City itself will remain free. >>114827 It is your imagination because I have not done this. >>114840 Again, the only stuff behind paywall are non-essential to the main stories, this has always been the case. I read these forums for actual feedback on my main work and more often than not it's mostly about leaking my work. For this group (obviously not everyone) that seems to have been supportive up until now it's very jarring for you to say this here of all places. I know at least 3 people that come here by name and at least 1 of them actually does post the paid content here. I comment when I feel the need and it is usually not to pick arguments unless people are misinformed about something or just lying which you have been as well. I have not fed my artwork into the A.I. I make detailed descriptions of all the Sable City characters then use themselves as examples for anything further. When the A.I. can't get something right then I intervene and fix it myself in Clip Studio. Some character designs only worked because I did the editing to them to get them to look a certain way, this includes some of there outfits and anthropomorphic faces that the A.I. couldn't do. Most of the fat characters could only get as big as they are because I redid some of their anatomy. Even with that, the A.I. still has issues with certain characters with spikes or other details that involve their backside. Same goes for trying to edit the videos, learning what I can from video editing so that the series can be somewhat coherent. Is it perfect? No, but I sure as hell tried and put in the effort. ---- The entire point of this was to use the A.I. in a way that most are not using it seriously for. It is not being used for slop because of the amount of effort and human oversite involved, which is the opposite of what A.I. Slop is. I wanted to make something I do not normally do which is the 3D animation stuff, I do have some knowledge in 3D modeling and animation, but I do not have the resources/time for it. At no point did I ever say or imply that I was replacing my artwork with A.I. So, to make this painfully clear, I am NOT swapping to A.I. for my artwork, I am not using it for 2D work or 2D animation, and I am not making comics with it. If you guys have to make things up about me just to stand on your box then there is no point in me further engaging with the conversation if you can't be genuine.

>>114856 $15 is a fair chunk to charge for pieces that you seem to be asserting as throwaway and unimportant. There seems to be a disconnect here in seeing how people might be burned by the high price tag, and with you further doubling down that they wasted their money. People associate a high value price tag with highly valued work, which doesn't seem to be the case here. Yes, you do try to make it clear to prospective buyers but then why set the price so high anyway? It either disincentives purchasing or it feels exploiting FOMO on experimental content.

>>114846 There is something of a painful irony in Viro unwittingly following a path that aligns uncomfortably closely with faf's. History doesn't repeat but it sure does like to rhyme. Now I know how an A-Club came to be when it looked like such a bizarre relationship when viewed as an outside observer, hah. I hope that, like faf, you don't view such loyal supporters as mere cash cows, Viro. I'd like to think you haven't been pushing your more popular characters out there in your UC art sets as a cynical cash grab and little else...

>>114863 Another slight devil’s advocate, but feel like clearing up some misgivings: 1) Viro could have worded it better. But I think he meant to say that his art sets are “superfluous”. As in they’re either fan-art or pieces with scenarios that don’t contribute to or significantly expand on his main content - his comics, which he (eventually) puts out for free. 2) Whether you agree or not with Viro’s business model or prices, he’s made it clear that if you don’t like it, then simply just don’t buy into it. 3) The big issue with FAF was how he responded to his content being leaked. FAF had a big blowout that isolated himself, whereas Viro at least seems to take his own leaks in stride and the community with more patience

>>114834 could you post it on the furry thread over at the bbwai board, dear anon

>>114874 sane person’s advocate. Viro has dedicated a good chunk of his time and talent, to make slop ai art. And that sucks shit through a bendy straw. He can come here to complain that people are “misunderstanding or lying about him”, he can cope that he is WORKING WITH ai by making edits to the slop, he can use AI to make responses to these comments to agree with him, it all doesn’t matter. He is making shit AI content and asking people to pay for it. Them’s the brakes. And hey, Viro is a big boy. If he wants to shit his bed with AI art and lay in it, that’s his right. But he shouldn’t expect other people not to point out the foul smell.

Does anyone have this? Sorry if I bother the convo...

>>114895 I know it's a bit off topic but recently I stumbled on this user on deviantart: Highborn-flunky. Everything is AI and it's astonishing how good it looks! I don't know what AI viro uses but it effectively looks like absolute dogshit!!! If he wants to use AI for his business model he should definitely upgrade because it is definitely slop, even for someone like me who doesn't necessarily hate AI.

>>114921 Comparing 2d gen-AI pictures to 3d animated gen-AI vids is an apples to oranges comparison. As far as I can tell, Viro still hand draws all his 2d art.

>>114856 I dislike AI-generated content as a whole, but as long as it is laying around on the internet for free it's whatever. Placing it behind a paywall is foul.

>>114920 Your wish is my command oh fellow appreciator of this fat fuck fox.

no it doesnt, how can you not see that its just a amalagamation of other existing artists work, its not impressive its not creative its nothing. how desperate for content can you actually be to think this is somehow good.

>>114935 I wish your pillow stay cold on both sides for the rest of your life, my king

>>114856 >it is not being used for slop because of the amount of effort and human oversite involved Sure thing Tim Sweeney