I wish more talented artist gave drawing a full render of Bridget a chance

>>10956 I believe what Anon means it time gap if I remember correctly her first appearance was at age 14/15? By the time we get to guilty gear strive which is where this design comes from adding eclipsed time they're roughly 20/21 at the bare minimum Bridget at least can't be younger than 18! It's kinda the same thing with squirrel girl who we saw a age progression with it stopped at 15 then time skipped 5 years they didn't directly say she's 20 but simple maths. Also for those wondering marvel comics has the 4 = 1 system in which 4 years irl is 1 comic year this is how we know jubilee is 18/20 and magik is 20 as her last official age mention I believe was 14/15 So yeah it's not exact but we roughly know she's adult.

>>11217 squirrel girl?!

I'm probably gonna catch shit for sayin this, so I'll put in a chunk of content to make the post worth a damn. What makes Bridget's transition from femboy to trans girl comes from the inherent dishonesty and attention-seeking behavior, transgenderism, transexualness, and social justice advocation in general. What was wrong with Bridget being a femboy? Moreover, what's now RIGHT with his story and motivations changing to now revolve around being a tranny? The answer to both is that HIS story before the change worked just fine; now there's politics trying to acknowledge people who shouldn't be acknowledged because giving attention to them also gives attention to the perverts among them who are the reason they do not deserve acknowledgement. > Femboys - honest with themselves and live how they see fit, in especially believable non-perverse ways. Bridget taking all of his clothes off in a men's locker room and everyone seeing that he is indeed a dude and he doesn't argue otherwise elsewhere is situationally appropriate. THIS was what he used to do: tell people that he was indeed a dude when they thought he wasn't and still SHOULD. > Trans women - perpetual self-lies that cover up perverse motivations as if it's not a perverse atmosphere overall and trying to force its way into a narrative that doesn't need its indecency. For more reasons not to not stand for Bridget being written into the role of a trans girl, just consider every trans girl who transitions for legal access to malicious sexual deviancy in spaces made for real women. > Futas - a fetish concept that one can only dream of and that is unashamedly truthful with itself about its place and motivations. This doesn't really apply to Bridget, but if it did, choosing to be called 'HER' wouldn't be too unnatural because the presence of male genitals is anomalous on a female body, not a factor that can be biologically overlooked. Of these three, trans women are the most dubious and trying to masquerade as an innocent social stance instead of something loaded with support for sex offenders and perverts that is only solved by being legally condemned. Don't submit to the idea that he SHOULD be a tranny just because a writer of canon believed he should; that was nothing but PR farming. Femboys have objectively cleaner hands in the real world, while trannies only have clean hands to idealists with fingers in their ears who don't know that the genuine model citizens who are trans that they advocate for are the minority. A minority compared to the unstable, entitled perverts who should not have the law on their side or receive attention. Bridget is not a pervert, therefore a pervert should not point at HIM and say "there's a character who represents me." On a less philosophical not, a majority of trans women are ugly, while ya BOY Bridget emphatically isn't.

>>12099 Also, just to clarify, what I last said while I'm using this comment to post the rest, Bridget USED TO and SHOULD STILL correct people when they assume he's a girl, not just let lead them on and let them assume things, or worse, actively tell people that he is. It keeps him spiritually and physiologically honest. This agenda pushing should not be allowed to stand if it compromises a greater characterization.

>>12100 Used a stonetoss comic Opinion: automatically invalid.

>>12103 https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/acquired-tastes "Oh no, this guy used a neo-Nazi's meme before looking into the background." Exactly how the fuck was I supposed to know out of all the comic jokes not to use for fear of siding with a white supremacist, THAT just happened to hit the mark? I'm not even white or straight. Fuck off with your "used Stonetoss by accident = everything you said is automatically invald" bullshit.

>>12105 > Uses 'fag' to address someone on a thread about liking a dude. Why are you even here? If you're here to insult people for not being straight, all you're doing is stating the obvious.

>>12106 >implying gay men don't also use fag You're living in a bubble, sir.

>>12107 More often than not, it really is just some loser scrolling past something he doesn't like instead of actually being committed to the thread. Bubble or not, you can't exactly argue that he's here for the gay stuff before he says as much.

>>12104 it's not about the Nazi part, it's about low quality meme choice

>>12113 Fair enough, but if that's suggesting there was a high quality one, I'd like to see the better meme format that's as situationally appropriate if not more.

Why not just take both trans and femboy Bridgette at once? Doesn't matter about who they are (or she/he)

all of you just shut the hell up already and continue to post the cute fat blonde girl

>>9504 >it's pretty clear it's what daisuke intended from the start No it isn't, stop buying into Daisuke's idiotic "I'm a clairvoyant 5D chess master who knew what the state of the trans rights movement would be in 20 years but still needed the term explained to me in 2019 and I cleverly hid Bridget's true gender identity until Japan was ready for it" bullshit.

>>10899 Bridget hated having been raised the way he was. He dressed that way because it was all he knew. His entire deal was wanting to prove his masculinity. And he was quite comfortable doing so until a sudden offscreen character regression happened to facilitate a story where Goldlewis gaslights him into conceding to a female identity in the Heartloss ending.

Character directly says they're a girl and the creator says they're a trans girl. People will grasp at any excuse to say she isn't trans bc they hate the idea of playing anything "woke". It's the same as people saying something's only political when there's black people in it. who cares what's actually in the game or what the creators think some internet rando doesn't agree so it doesn't count.

>>12693 >Character directly says they're a girl In the English script of the bad end route. The Japanese version of which has him conceding to Goldlewis' gaslighting and saying it's okay to call him a girl because "I am girly, after all..." >and the creator says they're a trans girl. And also spins an idiotic story about the character having always been one, only to admit days later that he did it for ESO brownie points. Also he's not Bridget's sole creator--he just came up with the base concept of "Let's make the archtypal cute girl fighter turn out to be a crossdressing boy" and others went from there. Bonus: People who worked on the game, the very companies pumping out the ridiculous amounts of Bridget merchandise, Bridget's seiyuu in the recent anime, the Japanese fandom, etc. all still call the character an "otokonoko", so uh...

>>12760 >only to admit days later that he did it for ESO brownie points

>sees some posts about whether Bridgette is a femboy or trans or a girl Girl, trans, boy, femboy, what the hell is the difference?

OP here. This thread was a mistake.

We need a v2 with just pictures, some threads shouldn't have the features of texting

>>12787 I really do feel like Robert Oppenheimer. >>12806 Absolutely, especially the second half.

I like Bridget a lot in terms of character design both pre- and post-strive, but a good 95% of her art and fans annoy the living hell out of me to the point that I'm contemplating writing a fatfic about her that avoids all the usual shit you see in art of her (brisket/basket/bidet and other cutesy nicknames, shipping, letting her gender identity overshadow every other aspect of her life and characterization) just so there's SOMETHING out there for like-minded fans. Not sure when I'll finish it, but I'll post a link once I do.

I doubt it. I want to share my wplace Brisket that I'm still working on, but I'm afraid it might lead to griefing and more arguments. The art is just getting really big, so I could use some help with the coloring.

more wife

>>12845 nwm, its done https://wplace.live/?lat=58.76651414699005&lng=30.23358365302732&zoom=16.273425117543642 i think to make this >>9378 second art next time

chuds on suicide watch trannies can't stop winning

>>14615 Bridget beings trans is still someone else's headcanon, not actual canon.

>>14616 I mean sure let's ignore the game's creator always intending Bridget to be a transgender character struggling with her identity. And that in Strive she was directly confirmed to be a trans woman. What is this weird obsession with not accepting that Bridget, a fictional character, is transgender? It's 2026 bro, she appeared in Strive and was confirmed to be trans in 2022...

>>14625 ← This was also a creative commitment. Pushback prevented it from being the mistake that stopped the Sonic movies from being dead-on-arrival. It's an even dumber obsession to just accept an author shoving real-world politics into a work this late in the game just because it's a certain year for that shit to receive less pushback. However, 'more accepted' is not the same as 'acceptable.' Trans people in real life are depraved and delusional. You hear stories all the time about the most outspoken ones being problematic, so why would anyone want anything to do with a message that supports them, especially when it costs Bridget his uniqueness and undermines his premise? Context also frames this very much as a virtue-signalling move, not one that benefits the fans. If Bridget couldn't be displayed as a trans woman from the start, it means the writer was a pussy who couldn't write a good enough story about it, or didn't want to weather the flak of it. If Bridget was not supposed to be trans from the beginning and this is indeed a retroactive change, it's surrendering his development for a trend. Either way, whoever's idea it was to make Bridget trans, that person and the idiots who let them get that ball rolling are spineless. It may as well be the equivalent of retracting a statement and apologizing on the internet. You don't do that; you lock in with your intentions and don't let insane and/or retarded tourists control your work, your words, or your boundaries. Impressing tourists, non-fans, and anti-fans at the expense of real fans and the work has never gone over well for anyone. Bridget being trans is not being accepted because the longer it's not accepted, the more likely it can possibly become undone and forgotten about. I myself am not going to accept Bridget as a trans woman because it means accepting that he's lost an innocence he doesn't deserve to lose. It also means accepting that he'd be a representation of people in real life who make me and others angry with how uneducated, bipolar, entitled, whiny, predatory, and murderous they are. Bridget is none of those things, therefore he should never have started bringing representation of those people into a fantasy we play to ignore them or start reminding other people of their existence.

>>14625 Also, there's not even any word from the creator that Bridget was meant to be trans all the way from the beginning in 2002. That's just some shit you made up or bought into, so don't use your headcanon as a crutch.

>>15071 >>15072 Again, not a fucking thing you're saying matters because you'd still be seething just as much if an original queer character was added to the game. no matter what the facts were, youll still be crying "muh woke!" because you have a biased stance on these things and came into this conversation with an agenda first and an argument second. "dont bring your headcanons into this" while choosing to ignore something thats actually canon now lmao

>>15076 You're a retard. I'M the "agenda first" one when Bridget's change was based in agenda? I wouldn't be "seething" if an ORIGINAL trans character was introduced so much as I would be exhausted and pay them no mind. What's bothersome in Bridget's case is that he is a sign of transgender appropriation being a victory. His is a lived case of trans people calling femboys trans when they're not, only for someone who has say on his canon to turn around and give in just to please tourists. Also, "seething at a queer character?" "Muh woke?" Are you even paying attention to what you're saying, who you're saying it about, and who you're saying it to? I'm gay as fuck for Bridget and couldn't give less of a shit who he was attracted to. Gender identity politics is not queer, it's mental illness and predation that has nothing to do with sexual preference because it's about the self instead of attraction in others; gay, bi, and lesbian people have given up fighting for trannies because they won their own battles. Now the only battles left to be fought are being fought by freaks. Look up how the LGB community is choosing to actively disassociate with trannies, because they are NOT handling the fight for rights with grace anymore. When I said "don't use your headcanon as a crutch," that was calling out a false case of there being any "evidence" from the creators that Bridget's arc was always meant to go this way, because there isn't. I'm not headcanoning that Bridget is male; that's been canon since before all of this bullshit started. I'm just ignoring the new status quo because the old one existed for twenty years and I can still say "he was not trans then" and still have it be correct. I can stay in the past and talk about Bridget being male the way people say the original Star Wars trilogy was fine work before the prequels and sequels started messing things up. If I have a talk with someone calling him 'he,' and they tell me he's trans now, I'm speaking of 'him' in a state where he predates this crap. Your 'cis conservative male scum' angle for tackling my point doesn't work here, dumbass. The next time you decide to run your stupid mouth, make sure you know what point is being made, especially your own. Don't just chime in because you can read the easiest words out of a long argument.

>>15089 >Look up how the lgb community community is choosing to actively disassociate with trans people now, because they are not handling their fight with grace Are we living on different planets? You're talking about this like this is something widespread. Ask most cis queer people anf theyd tell you theyre just fine with trans people. My point is that you cant ignore parts of a story you dont like and acknowledge what you do and call the latter canon and the former not canon. Unless you just dont care about modern guilty gear at all, in the case go off. Also queerdom can refer to non-binary gender identity AND sexual attraction. "Lgb without the T!" as if global oppressors dont see you as the same thing and are gonna put you in the same concentration camp. Why do you even like femboys and hate transwomen? If a man can look, act, dress, and sound like a woman, is gender anything more than a label by that point?

And i do think you would still be acting like this if an original queer character was here, considering you also jab at a group of people who did nothing to you besides not be attractive to you

>>15091 >>15092 You're making it really difficult to have a decent heated discussion when you keep refusing to pay attention to what both of us are saying... I'm gonna put this in reduced terms: Bridget's arc was about showing others that he can be a man in spite of his girly atteibutes; the trans trajectory ruins that and makes it clear that he surrendered to grooming the same way psychologically disturbed in real life are being surrendered to transgender grooming by medical professionals in real life. Gamers don't want to have to imagine Bridget with that level of ugly baggage, nor do they want to associate him with all of the sociopathic creeps running around making transgenderism gross. I very much acknowledge him being trans is canon. I'm just ignoring that portion of his current iteration and confining my perception of him to before he was identifying as a woman. With any luck, this continued rejection from Guilty Gear fans will cause the transgenderism canon to be passed over, and Bridget will go back to identifying as male. There's a non-0% chance it could happen, just as your argument so bluntly claims there's a non-0% chance it'll stay the course. Also, you assume that I hate trans women and like femboys as if I don't have a distinction, like I haven't been spelling that distinction out this whole time. Let's reduce that too. To me, a trans woman is someone who is weak-willed, envious of having an identity that is physically impossible for them, and projecting their imagination in defiance of facts. This defiance can lead to completely aesthetic changes that are uncomfortable to think about, like HRT and genital plastic surgery, among other things. Connotatively, many trans women I see and hear about in real life have something wrong with them, especially the likes of that man-faced, ladder-pulling hypocrite Bruce Jenner and child predator-in-the-making, "Lilly" Contino. In short, I see trans women as presently unstable, future narcissists based on pattern recognition. On the flipside, a femboy is someone who very much acknowledges their maleness and just happens to be feminine as a compliment to it, rather than out of spite for it. Whether or not they try to defy it is a matter of boundaries, because they usually just make the "pretty" aspect of being a femboy flow naturally. They're also not perverts who invade women's locker rooms and make both sexes uncomfortable. The main sell of femboys is that they're more 'life imitates art' these days due to their innocence. It doesn't matter that they're a SIMILAR fantasy to being transgender; the point is that they still offer escapism from transgender bullshit in real life while having all of the perks trans people are so fixated on, all without ignorance and instability. They just identify as the coin flip side they were given and act pretty. So this isn't an argument about hating trans women for being trans, because that's for religious nutjobs and those "concentration camp oppressors" you talked about. It's about how real life and real people have ruined trans women and created the need for a new distinction. Bridget's new canon breaks that distinction and has made him slip into the uglier side as representation of ugly-hearted people at the expense of his character's integrity, rather than being a baggage-less character with a unique arc and his integrity intact. Also, this doesn't extend entirely to trans PEOPLE because I don't exactly have words on female-to-male transitions. I just see it as a social downgrade, since it's easier for a woman to pass as a man because women can just do whatever men do and still be womanly. With men, there's a lot of shit they need to get together in order to pass into femininity, which they mostly fail at, and it's a big reason why people hate looking at trans "women" being in women's spaces.

>>15093 If you think those traits just come with being trans and you hate trans people for that, then yes, you just hate trans people. >This defiance can lead to completely aesthetic changes that are uncomfortable to think about, like HRT and genital plastic surgery, among other things. What about HRT is "uncomfortable" to think about lol. And genital plastic surgery? People get physical surgery to feel more at home in their bodies for anything. Do you think we should abolish fat reduction surgery, too? >Connotatively, many trans women I see and hear about in real life have something wrong with them, especially the likes of that man-faced, ladder-pulling hypocrite Bruce Jenner and child predator-in-the-making, "Lilly" Contino. In short, I see trans women as presently unstable, future narcissists based on pattern recognition. And why in the world are you even mentioning them here? Do you use Schwarzenegger as an example for every german you see? >They're also not perverts who invade women's locker rooms and make both sexes uncomfortable Everything you have said about transwomen up until now, including this, is just you parroting stereotypes and sounding petty. And what about men who would feel uncomfortable about someone who looks like a woman entering the mens dresser? And also, this is practically the same as being uncomfortable around ugly people because of their physical appearance—even if it was justified, its not like its their own fault. >It's about how real life and real people have ruined trans women and created the need for a new distinction ?? What do you even mean by this? "Ruined"? You thought they were good before?? >Also, this doesn't extend entirely to trans PEOPLE because I don't exactly have words on female-to-male transitions. I just see it as a social downgrade, since it's easier for a woman to pass as a man because women can just do whatever men do and still be womanly. With men, there's a lot of shit they need to get together in order to pass into femininity, which they mostly fail at, and it's a big reason why people hate looking at trans "women" being in women's spaces. So dont hate transwomen, you hate transwomen who you dont think pass. You still, by definition, hate trans people. My takeaway from this is that you are upset you cant fetishize transwomen who dont pass, as everything you love about a femboy is just that you can fetishize them. Because they pass. How do you feel about femboys who dont pass as feminine, if i could ask?

Also >Bridget's arc was about showing others that he can be a man in spite of his girly atteibutes; the trans trajectory ruins that and makes it clear that he surrendered to grooming the same way psychologically disturbed in real life are being surrendered to transgender grooming by medical professionals in real life Im sorry for not saying this before but i actually agree with Bridget's character change making her previous arc kind of icky, but specifically because it reinforces that stereotype you mentioned. What I find weird though is how you say that this is referencing irl trans grooming, even though mordern guilty gear doesnt frame this as a bad thing at all. But if you did think it was referencing that, why treat it like a continuity or writing error then? Do you also shake your head in disapproval when the main character kills someone in a movie?

>>15095 >>15096 Now we're switching up from not paying attention to hyperbolic leading questions, it seems. Here's some for you: are YOU going to be the one who changes how trans "women" act in real life to make them stop acting like creeps? Are you going to filter my browsing so that I only somehow see good stories about trans "women"? Are you seeing how this hyperbole is annoying and shouldn't be the basis of a question you expect an answer to? I still stand by what I said in the case of female-to-male transitions. Even though it's a social downgrade leaving the fairer gender, that's their decision. As a man, I'd rather suffer a male's problems than a woman's problems any day of the week, so it's also understandable. As for how this pertains to stereotyping, I wouldn't be bringing it up if it wasn't a serious topic of discussion with multiple cases. If you think this is only confined to me sounding petty, ask a woman if she'd be comfortable with a low-effort transitioned guy walking around naked in a locker room she was in, able to see her naked as well. If the answer isn't 'no,' you should assume it's an empty virtuous sentiment, or she forgot that the question puts her at risk upfront. Let's stop stating the obvious at this point. Yes, I hate male-to-female transitioners, just as I hate all people who are too confused, uneducated, vindictive, or all of the above to be given the reins to their own lives. Those types of people should not be making any life choices other than holding a tight ship. Yes, I acknowledge that Guilty Gear isn't painting Bridget's shift as bad IN-UNIVERSE, and I acknowledge that the writers wouldn't TRY to paint it as a bad thing in real life. However, that's what they did when they decided to just throw Bridget's prior integrity out the window, intentional or not. Did they need to do it? No. Is it better because they did do it? Also no. Why did they do it? Not for a good enough reason compared to keeping Bridget the same. They're very obviously not trying to paint Bridget as being groomed into transitioning, but the event in itself has become a doylist tie-in of real-life temptation and pressure getting the better of a creator and making Bridget decide to identify as female. This is how a detransitioner's story starts: they get pressured into becoming who they're not because transgenderism seems to be the mercurial cure-all of today's mental health issues. Shitty doctors are coercing patients to seek transitioning as a way to end the confusion, not unlike how the idea was put into Bridget's head. And that wasn't even by a doctor. >My takeaway from this is that you are upset you cant fetishize transwomen who dont pass, as everything you love about a femboy is just that you can fetishize them. That statement is disgusting. It implies that even though my reasons for liking a character have as much to do with their emotional capacity as their appearance, I supposedly WOULDN'T be mad if I COULD fetishize people who were completely detestable AND ugly. That my hate is unfounded because I'm not "accepting" enough to be horny for people I historically understand as being unhinged and vile. It's also the sex-coded version of the "you're transphobic if you think this trans murderer deserves to be found guilty in court" argument. NO, I think a murderer should be found guilty, trans or not; the transphobic part is just an emerging pattern from a high level of negative exposure to all the fake women out there who keep showing up in the news for crimes. On a related note, the gender ratio of murderers in America is 7 to 1, according to a recent-ish study. If transitions are taken seriously at that crime level, it means a minority of women categorized for that ratio are actually troons. So no, I'm not upset that I can't get a boner over the same group of people that craves the blood of every detransitioner and bullies people on Twitter into suicide. If you can, that's not a good thing. I saw this guy in a comment section put it in the most fair terms possible: "When a trans person ends up in Hell, being trans won't be one of the reasons it happened." What I took away from that quote was that it means even though everyone has the capacity to be terrible, being trans is to male creeps what dyed hair is to people with shitty parents. There's nothing wrong with hair dye, but people with terrible habits sure do seem like they're trying to make it a red flag. Not sure if that was the point of what he said because the quote was the full comment, but that is what it seemed like. I don't know if you can sympathize with this, but there's just too much of a difference FOR ME between what it means for a male to be a femboy or a trans "woman". Label-chainging the way you say is not as easy as just removing a DVD sleeve because these are just two entirely different concepts to me at this point. And it's obvious to you by now that I see one as being more red-handed

>>15095 And Arnold is Austrian, nerd. So I wouldn't use him as an example for ANY German unless I was a fucking moron who couldn't be bothered to do a quick fact check.

>>15103 I genuinely think it's profoundly pathetic how terminally online you sound while you typecast all trans women when you have clearly never met one. Not that any cis woman would ever want to associate with you either. Maybe go outside for once in your life and touch grass. Or, better yet, go play in traffic.

>>15119 >Not that any cis woman would ever want to associate with you either. >go play in traffic. Hello Pot, my name is Kettle.

>>15120 Lol all the cis women I know would say the same to trash. You're not on their side.

>>15122 Mixed signals on who you're replying at...

Why y'all are salty over Bridgette's Identity? Trans, female, femboy, who gives a crap about it as long as there's good shit from them? Just let the artists cook and goon as y'all please