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Artists that have gotten Worse over time? Anonymous 11/10/2023 (Fri) 23:15:22 Id:fe9445 No. 99764
Usually we get threads regarding those who have either improved over time or are just completely stagnated. What of those that have gotten worse over time, or who have started going into crappy directions? And why? Regrettably I have to start with Sidkid44. Started off unique and with a sketchy but very cute style. Now its.... freaky and weird. And the mouth shapes are just really offputting... uncanny or something.
>>147954 Joe Yabuki and Lupin have very cruder vocabulary. The Japanese are boomers and don't like darkness. I doubt Pokemon is super conservative on the budget. The problem with Pokemon is Shudo puts more emphasis on adventure, which will take him 20-30 years to reach Kalos at the expense of developing legendary Pokemon. I don't care about money, money, money! I just don't obsess over small details
>>147953 Torishima said that Mangaka are not writing for the magazines and doing personal projects with unremarkable people. He's right. I forgot about Naruto, Bleach, My Hero Academia, and Demon Slayer. I still remember Dragonball, Sailor Moon, and Inuyasha. I don't care for Dr. Stone
>>150233 As someone who's worked very closely with Wales and even have done some writing alongside him (private stuff for our own fun), I can confirm chatgpt is not a tool Wales uses for his writing process. If anything, he was a bit offended someone had used AI writing in a contest he had held with his patrons, though he never spoke such aloud. It's genuinely something he'd never consider using, even in the current state of production he's in. The other posters are correct that he has quite a bit on his plate on a month to month basis, juggling a fair number of patrons with differing tastes and franchises to all get right. Here's a direct quote from one of his recent patron posts addressing the current state of the burnout in regards to his workload: "Like I ran some numbers. Out of the 195 days so far this year, I've written for 80% of them at about 4 pages a day. My current consecutive word count is 415,091. Which on a 500 words per page average, that equates to about 118~ pages per month." All of this to say, you're welcome to feel as you do about how things read for you tastes, but there are some underlying causes that are to be addressed with his current plans that should help to levy some of this, including him taking some time to write some things for himself that may be more to what you're hoping for. What those things will be are still a mystery to even the closest of us, but you have a fair shake. It may not hurt to reach out and speak with him about your concerns, he's fairly open to talking with people and would likely appreciate your constructive criticisms.
>>99839 He was a shit artist before
>>150233 Yeah that's something I've worried about with dip in quality. I try to give everything the same amount of polish and love but Patreon work has gotten a little out of hand. As others have said, most of that dip is due to burnout. Trying to keep up with stuff while also working full time. My own fault really. I'm happy to provide for patrons and commissioners though I think the "forgot English" bit comes from trying to push through blocks than anything else. It's something to keep in mind going forward. In regards to AI tools/GPT I've only ever used them with regards to stories if I can't think of a good title. Nothing in my main content is AI generated. As someone else said, if there's more feedback you'd like to give, feel free to message me. I want to continue doing my best for people who read my stories. I appreciate you speaking your mind as such!
>>101345 Is there an archive of his old stuff?
>>150289 To me, NeverWere's a sad case of "bad art, then art gets even worse" Like, the shit was bad, but at least it was something you can say "yeah, that's his stuff". Nowadays, it's all just trying to be a diet RidiculousCake (and Cake is arguably one of the worst artists in this space)
>>151552 The only thing separating him from cake is that his colors are more muted and his lines are 5% denser, everything else about is art is just a straight ripoff.
>>151556 That, and as an online personality... He's like Cake if you removed the racism and dialed the pedophilia down to the "getting pissy over pushback" setting... granted, he doesn't draw shit like Violet Beaureguarde, but still. No need to act like an asshole when people are upset you decided it'd be a good idea to draw incest art for Coffin of Andy & Leyley.
>>151564 >Ridiculous Cake >Racist What kind of retardation is this?
>>151627 The more they see nothing works the more they get desperate.
>>151552 >>151556 >>151564 I remember when Never asked for feedback and another artist just straight up called him ridiculouscake-lite and he blocked them followed up by closing comments when it was the only comment there, then making a follow up tweet about it then proceeded to crash out on his report my post group before disabling the report my post link because the artist came to the report my post group to see if the crash out was real
>>152379 *crash out on his report my post
>>152380 Wow I had no idea that word was censored, I’m sure you worked out what I meant but if you didn’t then the word thats censored is that dragon goat horse guy’s name from MLP
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>>101345 yeah. also used to have some balls when choosing subjects.
>>152388 if balls means drawing kids I wouldn't call that balls, he still does that it's why some artists stopped talking to him
>>152395 Artists are getting bad because they got rid of schizos like Kisame17 the newer stuff is garbage cause they've got no competition. They're no in their 40s and men are irrationally afraid of fantasy.
I still think Cross Crescent's style deteriorated with too much saccharine queer stuff. I cannot tell who is who became they all have the same style. Same goes for Marrazan where they're the same.
Industrial Light and Magic
>>155288 Bruh ar U Fuking High,This is about inflation artists.Not a Effects CGI Company.
Cleverfoxman and Fatclubinc they haven't really gotten worse but you can tell when they got lazy
>>151564 Cake is racist?
>>155362 Who isn't
Ok I gotta ask. How is cake a racist? I hear people keep saying it but never any receipts. No specific instances. When people pointed out how stupid CathyN was people would easily give examples. With cake all I hear is “he is a racist trust me bro” I even spoke with him a couple times he was very pleasant to talk to and even gave me some pointers for my own art. I mean we never talked about the finer points of the emancipation proclamation, 9/11, any other hot button issue that could show he is a “racist”so I might be in the dark. He just seemed like a polite guy.
>>158023 Here is the reason people claim Cake is racist. Ready for this?.... It's because he said that people tearing down historical statues during BLM were stupid and morally wrong. That is it. Cake had an issue with people tearing down confederate statues because not only were they setting a bad example for the cause they were also erasing history that needed to be remembered so that said history wasn't repeated. The fucker even admitted he was a democrat when discussing the issue. Unfortunately the video where cake spoke himself on the issues appears to be scrubbed but it was a very measured and understandable stance.
>>158029 >It's because he said that people tearing down historical statues during BLM were stupid and morally wrong. That is it. The sexy girl versions of Hurricane Dorian and Covid-19 he drew didn't exactly help matters either.
>>158030 His followers are to blame for corona-chan, he drew it then a week later an artist's dad died of covid. he then told his stream he wasn't going to draw her anymore and even said why and his fans got mad at him for the reason, Hurricane Dorian he found out someone he knew died getting crushed by their homes rubble and his fans were mad about him not drawing her. His fan's are crazy and need calling out more then what he does
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>>158029 I mean to be fair it's statues. Statues exist to honor people for specific reason or another. Although I too don't agree just sticking dynamite up a confederate statue's ass (mostly because let's think of it logically. Statues are heavy and that s*** is easily dangerous and can lead to somebody getting crushed especially from illiterate people who don't know what the hell they're doing and haven't handled demo work a day in their life!) but it's different than removing book or data on historical events if a individual wishes a Statue celebrating a horrible individual is quietly removed than that's understandable too. I don't agree in history erasure either but look at it this way even somebody with gold medals from an Olympic event loose them the moment finds out they're using steroids especially under the context of specifically using them to win certain metals. Same thing here. >>158047 honestly let's get this off the bat. A Corona virus Chan was probably a bad idea to begin with! But even though that sound's edgy and I say that at the same time their company's legitimately out there selling virus merch plushies so kind of no different of a situation whether it's a fetish artist or a cute representation of gonorrhea in stuffed form? But yeah I do agree on one thing you can't blame the man if his fans are unhinged that's 100% on them! You're not supposed to be your audience keepers. They make their own choices.
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Also let's bring up another elephant I think another reason why he get shit on alot is probably the underage character thing. Now to be fair he has gone on record saying any version of Wonka characters and for example his Pacifica and mabel inflation stuff was drawn as 18+ aged up designs. And they are taller with exaggerated curves and features such as breast that accent a adult body! But then there are times where the loli slips the cracks like the Halloween story which I unironically do like about the clown that permanent pops people. With his two characters one of which is a baby sitter/ older sister who is 100% 18+ and adult. She's the one actually inflated and bursted in the story but are particular footnote comes at the epilogue in which it implies heavily that the clown Targets her baby sister next. Starting the game all over again and although maybe I'm wrong here and the younger sister is 18+ if the older sister is like 20/25 and given the size in statute it's hard to believe she's 18+. Again maybe she's like meg from brawl stars and is just a very short queen for a 19 year old or whatever? But some of the story elements heavily imp trick or treating and the older sister is literally babysitting! And adults tend to not be watched over like that. I don't know again it is pencil lines but still and I think that leeway gives people a lot of excuses to do whatever the fuck they want with their trauma and shit on cake under the presumption he's just a pedo or some shit and to be fair even if they're is controversial aspects to him it doesn't give you the right to also be an equal bad person and trauma dump more shit onto him. If you're going to blame somebody for something at least blame them for something that is their fault! And again cake at least gets enough respect out of me that he aged up his characters and that younger sister girl is the only example that comes to mind of him doing loli again assuming I'm not wrong. But you tell me the younger sister is the short one here could be 18,16,12 who fucking knows? You tell me to be honest but yeah regardless it doesn't give people the right to be extra weird and force covid chan and other weird shit onto him
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Oh yeah, I remember corona Chan. I thought it was kinda stupid and I moved on like a normal person. I never knew about the statue thing but I do agree with him that we need to keep them to remember. I mean it’s not like we are going to keep the slave bunks or the ripped up rails from Sherman. As for the loli stuff I do see it and I think he was quick to quell any confusion of the characters. However, the pony shit does feel a bit loli if I am being honest. On the topic of the kids from above. In all fairness when you trick-or -treat your kind of set on a path of the street (think mini golf). So the fact that they “followed them” is not really that odd.
>>158067 You're using a tumblr post? bro that post is now older than what RC was when he made that post wasn't he a teenager at that point? tell me everything you did as a teenager so I can hold it against you when your in your 30's
>>158076 The dude acknowledged this shit, and rather than give out an actual apology or even acknowledge that what he did was wrong... bro decides to deny it by going nuh-uh and denying he ever did that Also, pretty sure he was like... 18 or 19 when that happened. Still a teenager, yes... but like, you're entering the early stages of adulthood, you really shouldn't be making mistakes like that.
>>158078 it was 15 years ago move on
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Sergio Cipactli, currently known as MoresDate, is somewhat unusual in his style, sometimes he improves, sometimes he gets worse. He's also pessimistic and prone to playing the victim. What are your opinions on this artist?
>>158123 I've comm'd him a few times before, he's... Really difficult to work with sometimes. I do agree with your statement though. I've seen him do good stuff but then I'd comm him and it isn't nearly as good. He's even messed up a few artworks of my friend.
>>158123 I worked with Sergio before on a couple projects as well. He's actually struggling with chronic depression and burnout because of his job closing down during pandemic. He's had it rough since then.
>>158123 >>158131 >>158137 sounds like every artist I know when it comes to coms and their depression, when you lose your job or never had one you still have to pay rent at the end of the month sometimes they'll cut a corner to get the com over with then move on to the next com and do the same then you'll see their own work thats way better than their com work and its only better as they werent rushed to get it out
>>158123 You might as well roll the dice with his work. Sometimes it's good, sometimes... not so much. There's no consistent pattern with this fluctuating quality, either. No "for every good piece, he makes two pieces that are dogshit", Sergio's a rollercoaster of quality.
I'd say AltzEgoz is up there... but if I'm being real, his art's never been all too good. Way too lazy. I look at everything from him, and I don't think "he's having fun". I think, instead "he sounds really miserable and regrets that this is even his life", even when it isn't kinky. It's like his original art's a mix of both the average adult sitcom and Loud House, and the pre-existing shit is just that but mixed with the original artstyle.
>>158253 Altz had a strong start but was unfortunate to befriend a lot of artists who were both friends with each other and a secret pedophile ring that either ran away when they were caught or just outright denied they did underage shit then nuked their galleries to cover it up but forgetting their pixiv exists and that we can see which artists they follow coughcoughneverwerecoughcough so they just copied what those pedo friends were doing and it drew in an audience that hated when he deviated from it, it was evident when he drew sabrina the teenage witches aunties from the cartoon show and his followers wanted a sabrina follow up
>>158253 >>158271 i genuinely have no idea what you expect from these people who draw characters from kids cartoons, theyre less pedophiles and more just retarded to the point of being children mentally. altzego is a fine enough artist, but definitely reeks of stagnation. his spherical inflation shit is so fucking bad though
>>158280 That's like... most inflation artists in a nutshell, and there's nothing really wrong with doing that shit. Altz isn't even a pedo to me, he's just kind of an asshole because "DA dared to take down my art of Marie Kanker". Yeah, the sperical shit is genuinely ass, I will give you that... but being honest, almost every single piece feels templated. I looked at both his G-Lo and humanized EVE pieces, and I think "wait, that's just beat-for-beat the same shape.
>>158271 Or they double down and act like giant assholes about it (InflateResponsibly, I'm looking right at you). Good thing you brought up Pixiv, that site's genuinely the worst. It's just people lying that they're from Japan just to get access to the shit that makes DA's mods rightfully angry.
Glad to see this site became less about criticizing artist whose work has gotten worse and just a massive tantrum corner for faggots whining about artists who draw fictional kids and somehow that equals to you niggers screeching "PEDO!! HE'S A PEDO!!" you're pretty damn pathetic lmfao
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>>158383 you're more likely to be mentally retarded than a pedophile if you draw exclusively underaged cartoon characters. says alot about the artist's media consumption
>>158413 Having a diverse media diet is good, actually.
>>158383 Found Neverwere
>>158067 >literally posts exonerating evidence

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